Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Unexplained Mysteries and Paranormal
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-30-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
18,780 posts, read 18,121,941 times
Reputation: 14777

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeemoments View Post
You pay for what has value to you in this and anything else. I've been Pagan for decades and spent very little money on it. I will occasionally buy a book if it really interests me. Often I've read the library copy first and just want to purchase my own. It is not necessary at all to spend large sums of money to be Pagan or Wiccan or anything else. Being closer to Nature is not expensive. Those who purchase an astrology app do so because they value the information.

There is no rule against making money.

Want to add, some of us have a much broader range of interests other than science.
]

We can waste our money whichever way we decide to waste it. But, like a placebo, many are apparently coming away from this new (but old) 'religion' feeling it is helping their lives. They are willing to convert others. I suspect that maybe the sexual revolution has helped promote witchcraft directly or indirectly; but I do not know. I am an outsider looking in.

I would like to know if there is any proof that any of this exist? I know that there are coincidences; but how do you know that you actually had 'results' from your witchcraft?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-30-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
102,188 posts, read 107,790,902 times
Reputation: 116087
What is with the sudden interest among Russians in witchcraft? We just had someone posting last week on a very concerning trend.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-30-2019, 01:33 PM
 
Location: USA
1,096 posts, read 418,142 times
Reputation: 933
Quote:
Originally Posted by fisheye View Post
]

We can waste our money whichever way we decide to waste it. But, like a placebo, many are apparently coming away from this new (but old) 'religion' feeling it is helping their lives. They are willing to convert others. I suspect that maybe the sexual revolution has helped promote witchcraft directly or indirectly; but I do not know. I am an outsider looking in.

I would like to know if there is any proof that any of this exist? I know that there are coincidences; but how do you know that you actually had 'results' from your witchcraft?
First as I said I am a Pagan. I am interested in Womens Spirituality and the Goddess. I have found tremendous healing in it. And appreciation for Nature and animals and the female body that I did not find in organized religion. I follow the seasons, what we called the Wheel of the Year. I am not really involved with spellcraft. Although any and all prayer is a "spell" whether that is in traditional religions or not. I am interested in womens spiritual herstory.

We do not convert others. We do not proselytize.

People are leaving rigid structures. They don't want to be told what to believe and not believe. They are so done with that. That isn't just within religion either. They are aware of science but it is not offering them what they need. If it did they wouldn't look outside it. Any structure that contains such rigidity is doomed to fail.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-30-2019, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
10,420 posts, read 14,593,655 times
Reputation: 22024
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeemoments View Post
First as I said I am a Pagan. I am interested in Womens Spirituality and the Goddess. I have found tremendous healing in it. And appreciation for Nature and animals and the female body that I did not find in organized religion. I follow the seasons, what we called the Wheel of the Year. I am not really involved with spellcraft. Although any and all prayer is a "spell" whether that is in traditional religions or not. I am interested in womens spiritual herstory...
Witchcraft is what anthropologists call transactional religion in which the person makes a deal with a spirit of some sort. The deal involves giving the spirit something that he or she desires in return for something that the human desires. This is very different from ordinary religions which demand unconditional worship in return for some vague future reward. Some spirits are good; some are evil; many are in between. Their emotions are very much like human emotions.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-30-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: USA
1,096 posts, read 418,142 times
Reputation: 933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy in Wyoming View Post
Witchcraft is what anthropologists call transactional religion in which the person makes a deal with a spirit of some sort. The deal involves giving the spirit something that he or she desires in return for something that the human desires. This is very different from ordinary religions which demand unconditional worship in return for some vague future reward. Some spirits are good; some are evil; many are in between. Their emotions are very much like human emotions.
I'm not sure if you are asking something or what?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-30-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
18,780 posts, read 18,121,941 times
Reputation: 14777
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth View Post
What is with the sudden interest among Russians in witchcraft? We just had someone posting last week on a very concerning trend.

I was not paying attention; but I see they are busy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-Putin.html or here is an older link that talks about witchcraft in general in Russia: https://www.vox.com/2014/11/13/72105...ics-everywhere.

Maybe, since we gave up on transcendental meditation; we will switch to witch craft to fight our next battles?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-30-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
10,420 posts, read 14,593,655 times
Reputation: 22024
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeemoments View Post
I'm not sure if you are asking something or what?
No, I'm explaining the intellectual framework.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-30-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: USA
1,096 posts, read 418,142 times
Reputation: 933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy in Wyoming View Post
No, I'm explaining the intellectual framework.
Thats fine. I don't necessarily agree though. People in organized religions bargain with God quite often. They ask the God/Jesus spirit to heal someone in return for something such as swearing they'll start praying the Rosary more often or going back to church, etc. I think that would fall into your transactional religion wouldn't it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Unexplained Mysteries and Paranormal

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:25 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top