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Old 02-12-2020, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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The Pacific Northwest doesn't offer enough calories to keep a creature of that size alive year-round.

The Pacific NW has buttloads (literally) of berries, ferns, green vegetation of all types that a Bigfoot eats available. Bigfoot used to gorge on all the salmon the Pacific NW offered at one time. You're high on too much Turkish hash.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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The Pacific Northwest doesn't offer enough calories to keep a creature of that size alive year-round.

The Pacific NW has buttloads (literally) of berries, ferns, green vegetation of all types that a Bigfoot eats available. Bigfoot used to gorge on all the salmon the Pacific NW offered at one time. You're high on too much Turkish hash.
In the winter time? Has anybody ever taken a picture of one catching salmon? You do realize that they would have to spend considerable time by the rivers and during that time people could actually see them and photograph them like they do the bears. If they were only living off ferns we would find sections of ferns torn out the ground; has anybody ever documented that?

Old growth forest does not provide a great food source for anything.

By the way; do you remember all the reports from the firefighters this year when they spotted Big Foot fleeing those fires? I think the key here is that there weren't any. Perhaps BF moved into our cities to escape those fires?
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:09 PM
 
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All big talk but no photos to back it up. All costume designers have a collection of suit photos.


Show us one from that era for sale on Ebay or anywhere else.
Neither ebay or the internet existing in the 60s so I am not sure what exactly you are asking, however here is a marketing picture from the 60s:



Back then they advertised in trade journals, below is the Morris advertisement from that time that Patterson saw:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...NMQxkEsYblY2Uw


Next question?
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:30 PM
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If bigfoot existed, it would need magical powers of evasion in order not to have been filmed conclusively, if not captured or killed, by now.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The Pacific Northwest doesn't offer enough calories to keep a creature of that size alive year-round.

The Pacific NW has buttloads (literally) of berries, ferns, green vegetation of all types that a Bigfoot eats available. Bigfoot used to gorge on all the salmon the Pacific NW offered at one time. You're high on too much Turkish hash.
It's not enough. That is EXACTLY why bears have to supplement their diet with lots of meat. But even doing that, they still can't get enough so have to hibernate in the winter.

And you know what we have in regard to bears? Lots and lots and LOTS of evidence of their existence. You can go visit one right now. Simply because an animal of that size has to maintain a population of several hundred individuals in order to have a healthy breeding population. And once you get several hundred or even thousands of animals that size in the wild, they're pretty easy to find.

Bigfoot on the other hand? Not a shred of verifiable evidence. None. Not a bone. Not a hair. Not a nest. Not a corpse. Not a camp. Just lots of hoaxes and blogsquatchery --- many of which are hoaxes too.

If Bigfoot exists, he is certainly NOT part of the natural ecosystem of North America.


https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/...est-updates-in

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...the existence of an enormous and extremely sneaky biped is unlikely—mostly because its caloric needs would require it to frequent too large an area for it to go unspotted forever. We’ll do a quick rundown:

The cryptozoological consensus has it that Bigfoot is a primate, possibly some distant cousin to early man. Judging from the habits of other large primates (including humans), we’d expect Bigfoots to live on a mostly vegetarian diet of fruits, tubers, bark, and leaves. They’d require 20 to 40 calories (and 100 milliliters of fresh water) per kilogram of body weight per day. Given an estimated body weight of 180 kg (around 400 pounds), we can guess Bigfoots must consume at least 3,600 calories a day. Keep in mind that’s conservative: orangutans, who only weigh around 100 pounds, eat between 2,500 calories, in lean times, and almost 8,000, when food is plenty.

Assuming food supplies permit, primate groups may keep to a small range of maybe a few hundred acres. But the bigger the species, generally speaking, the more foraging room they need per head—a western lowland gorilla can account for 350-plus acres of its own, and walk more than a kilometer a day in search of food. So unless the Bigfoots happened on some unusually well-stocked turf, they’d often be out and about hunting calories.

The number of Sasquatches necessary for a viable population depends on what your goals are. From a short-term genetic-diversity standpoint there’d need to be something like 50 breeding Bigfoots—but even then you’d still have a lot of first-cousin reproduction going on. To maintain any decent chance of genetic viability long term would probably take at least ten times that many.

Where might this large theoretical community of Bigfeet reside? A 2009 study (designed to demonstrate some limits of software-based analysis) used a large collection of Bigfoot data—646 records of alleged auditory and visual encounters plus footprints—to run an ecological-niche computer model. The model concluded that Bigfoot should be present throughout the mountain ranges of western North America, but predicted that the effects of climate change would likely drive it further north and into higher elevations, away from the coastlines. Perhaps more important, though: plugging reports of black bear sightings in the Pacific Northwest into the same modeling software indicated that the bears should share exactly the same habitat. Since they also exhibit a similar size, poundage, and full-body coiffure, the well-honed deductive mind might therefore conclude that people are commonly mistaking black bears for celebrity sightings of Bigfoot.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Maine
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https://listverse.com/2012/12/30/top...-doesnt-exist/

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The average Bigfoot sighting is purported to place the creature at approximately 8-9ft tall and at 500-600lb in weight. The problem here is that such an immense creature cannot be eating enough food to survive, because the impact on the food chain would be incredible. Scientists have proven that sasquatches would need to number in at least the tens of thousands to sustain themselves over the years through breeding. If these thousands of creatures are all packing away 5,000 calories worth of meat every day, where is the deficit in the animals/plants they are eating? Considering even a slight drop in the population of any given animal (or plant) causes large reverberations through the food chain, the statistics simply don’t add up.

As mentioned previously, the average Bigfoot sighting places the creature at over 8 ft tall. The reasonable question here is how such an enormous creature could possibly evade capture by humans. Every year new species are discovered all over the world, but they all have one thing in common: unless they’re in the sea, they are all tiny. When was the last time you heard of a new species of giant elephant being discovered? The point being that if tens of thousands of 8-foot tall, 500 pound ape-men were out there, we’d have found them by now.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:49 PM
 
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Here's the complete sequence:

https://youtu.be/ypEaGQb6dJk
Amazing, still gives me goose bumps.
The rumour was that the Academy Awards didn't even consider the movie for best costume design because they thought the Apes were all real. Planet of the Apes won it instead.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:52 PM
 
Location: CA
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When was the last time you heard of a new species of giant elephant being discovered? The point being that if tens of thousands of 8-foot tall, 500 pound ape-men were out there, we’d have found them by now.

I don't know. I saw this and it looks like a pretty large new species to me:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znv72DSTsXc
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Old 02-12-2020, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Here's the complete sequence:

https://youtu.be/ypEaGQb6dJk
And here is the parody.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gggQtG8hgKY
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Old 02-12-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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Neither ebay or the internet existing in the 60s so I am not sure what exactly you are asking, however here is a marketing picture from the 60s:



Back then they advertised in trade journals, below is the Morris advertisement from that time that Patterson saw:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...NMQxkEsYblY2Uw


Next question?
Thanks. you are good.

Yes another question. The suit doesn't look anything like the patty photos.

Anyway it doesn't change anything for me.

More discussion at: The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty - International Skeptics Forum

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