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Old 02-16-2020, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Regarding bigfoot - we have nothing but tales and bad videos and a lot of footprints. In the biological sciences, you need a body as evidence. It's called a "type specimen" (the type specimen of the platypus, for example, has been in the Natural History Museum in London since 1798). Bigfooters may not like this, but that's how biological science works. Give us a body (as some of us have said over and over again) and we can talk. No body, and all we have are a set of interesting tales.
That is what I said with the mountain lion that my wife and I spotted in Northeastern PA. Even though we both had a great look at it, close up and in the middle of the day; it was not proof they exist in PA. We need a body to prove that point and, according to our Game Commission, it would be illegal to shoot an endangered animal. I asked how it could be endangered if it did not exist!

It did make us feel better when just two years later a woman hit and killed a mountain lion on the road in Connecticut. That one was tested and its DNA 'said' it came from South Dakota. So it very easily could have been the same lion the we saw passing through our State.

In the meantime, since we had no body in PA; officially they do not live in our State. So we are in the exact same position as many that report Big Foot; except we do have a body - just in the wrong place!
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Old 02-17-2020, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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In the meantime, since we had no body in PA; officially they do not live in our State. So we are in the exact same position as many that report Big Foot; except we do have a body - just in the wrong place!
I lived in Charlottesville, VA in the 1970s - half an hour from the southern Appalachians. The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service declared the eastern cougar had been extinct since the 1930s and recommended it be removed from the list of endangered species. Yet I knew plenty of locals who had heard or seen them in remote areas. Some believe they're still around, and the sightings continue - but the new explanations are that they're western Cougars that are escaped pets or that somehow got to the east coast on their own (as was claimed to be the case with the 2011 Connecticut cougar).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_cougar
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Maine
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I lived in Charlottesville, VA in the 1970s - half an hour from the southern Appalachians. The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service declared the eastern cougar had been extinct since the 1930s and recommended it be removed from the list of endangered species. Yet I knew plenty of locals who had heard or seen them in remote areas. Some believe they're still around, and the sightings continue - but the new explanations are that they're western Cougars that are escaped pets or that somehow got to the east coast on their own (as was claimed to be the case with the 2011 Connecticut cougar).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_cougar
Animals wander widely. Most wildlife biologists will tell you that the wolf is extinct in New England. But someone killed one in Massachusetts a few years ago. Is there a permanent population? Not that anyone has determined yet. But it is entirely possible wolves wander down from Canada --- and they can cover hundreds of miles. I suspect the same is true of cougars, who are even more notoriously solitary than wolves.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2008/0..._reported.html
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I lived in Charlottesville, VA in the 1970s - half an hour from the southern Appalachians. The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service declared the eastern cougar had been extinct since the 1930s and recommended it be removed from the list of endangered species. Yet I knew plenty of locals who had heard or seen them in remote areas. Some believe they're still around, and the sightings continue - but the new explanations are that they're western Cougars that are escaped pets or that somehow got to the east coast on their own (as was claimed to be the case with the 2011 Connecticut cougar).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_cougar
This is what is missing in all the Big Foot reports: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...76Q5ZE20110727. A body! Like I said before it gave our report some credibility; but it did not prove we had one living in my State. One thing that did bother us about that article was that they stated the animal was two to five years old. Since we saw it two years earlier; it would put its age closer to five years old. That is; if it was the same animal?
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:49 PM
 
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Animals wander widely. Most wildlife biologists will tell you that the wolf is extinct in New England. But someone killed one in Massachusetts a few years ago. Is there a permanent population? Not that anyone has determined yet. But it is entirely possible wolves wander down from Canada --- and they can cover hundreds of miles. I suspect the same is true of cougars, who are even more notoriously solitary than wolves.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2008/0..._reported.html

We will never know what some human has released into the wild or got away. And we know have the Coydog as well.bv
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