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Old 06-26-2020, 03:49 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Its interesting to me, they were so concerned with keeping the craft a secret from the Russians...but in reality, what were the chances they could even reproduce the technology and put it use for the military? Slim to none I imagine!


Even looking at current military aircraft...its pretty clear, they havent been able to 'reverse engineer' ANYTHING' extraterrestrial, and Roswell happened in the late 40s!


Its makes me wonder why we even have places like Area 51, if you look at the most advanced military aircraft today, and at the historical aircraft, going back to the 40s and 50s...its easy to see the technological progression, there is NOT a single aircraft that stands out, as being 'different', not even close. How is that possible, if we had a recovered extraterrestrial craft?

Good post-- can't rep you again yet.


To reverse engineer something, you don't have to understand it, just copy it. That apparently hasn't been done noticeably in 75 yrs....Of course, we are talking about govt workers, so maybe that's not a good argument.


Also, look at some of the inconsistencies in the presentation -- "Area 51 workers swear their lives away," yet the people leaking the stories are breaking that promise, but still don't give us substantial details..WUWT??? Even the Mafia has it's informants who turn on them--and that's certain death.


BTW- what can travel at Mach 9 and make a right angle turn? The projection of an object traveling slowly and making a right angle turn, if the surface onto which it's projected is far enough away....Too many ordinary explanations for phenomena that the conspiracists insist must be alien or paranormal.
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:40 AM
 
Location: in your dreams
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I wonder if it's more of an optical illusion, similar to how Mercury only *appears* to move in regtrogade... Even if it was some type of advanced aircraft...or aliens...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-tru...t-human-lives/


"Mercury's backtracking is an issue of perspective. Its orbit is smaller and faster than Earth's. When its orbit catches up to and passes Earth, it creates the illusion that Mercury is backtracking, astronomers say.

Put more plainly, pretend you're Earth, watching Mercury run around a track. As it runs its loop, it will start out moving from the left side of your field of vision to your right. Then, it rounds the corner and, although not moving backward, is now running from right to left. This analogy is oversimplified because it doesn't take into account the fact that Earth is also moving, but it gives a good idea of how this optical illusion plays out."



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Old 06-26-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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Good post-- can't rep you again yet.


To reverse engineer something, you don't have to understand it, just copy it. That apparently hasn't been done noticeably in 75 yrs....Of course, we are talking about govt workers, so maybe that's not a good argument.


Also, look at some of the inconsistencies in the presentation -- "Area 51 workers swear their lives away," yet the people leaking the stories are breaking that promise, but still don't give us substantial details..WUWT??? Even the Mafia has it's informants who turn on them--and that's certain death.


BTW- what can travel at Mach 9 and make a right angle turn? The projection of an object traveling slowly and making a right angle turn, if the surface onto which it's projected is far enough away....Too many ordinary explanations for phenomena that the conspiracists insist must be alien or paranormal.
Imo, there is nothing to reveal from Area 51...if the place was ever used to house these objects, it was LONG ago, and most likely today, these things are stored in private facilities (under a govt contract), or its all done at a military base no one has heard of.


I often wonder what the large workforce at Area 51 has even been doing all these years! I cannot really think of any recently declassified aircraft, that totally re write the rule books, even the F35 is not THAT advanced, (still looks like a fighter jet, is very loud, has limitations similar to other military aircraft, etc, etc) Id like to know what the 1500 employees did, that ended up becoming part of the F35.
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Old 06-26-2020, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Loudon, TN
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So there was this thing in 2010...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypers...logy_Vehicle_2 which flew at Mach 20 for a short time before burning up.

So now 10 years later, who knows what secret things are capable of?
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Old Yesterday, 08:44 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Yes, the friction of the air will cause too much heat to use normal flight designs which
push a missile through the air at great speeds. The designs would have to come up with
something which used a different method of going through the air.

The reason why we have not seen secret craft recently is possibly because it is related to
this new technology and that has not been released yet. They cannot show us anything which
is based on that unless the technology cat has been let out of the bag by some country which
has developed it. It seems the technology is too valuable still to be released by anyone.

There was a tv program(cannot remember which one) such as Ancient Aliens or similar which
was doing a night watch on Area 51 and saw a 'something' descending at super fast speed
to the ground. The lights on the ground came on for about 10 seconds, the 'thing' was
seen to go super-fast from high up in the air to the ground, then the lights on the ground went
out again. Now, whether they made up that or filmed it as it took place, I dont know, but
I watched the program.
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 PM
 
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Yes, the friction of the air will cause too much heat to use normal flight designs which
push a missile through the air at great speeds. The designs would have to come up with
something which used a different method of going through the air.

The reason why we have not seen secret craft recently is possibly because it is related to
this new technology and that has not been released yet. They cannot show us anything which
is based on that unless the technology cat has been let out of the bag by some country which
has developed it. It seems the technology is too valuable still to be released by anyone.

There was a tv program(cannot remember which one) such as Ancient Aliens or similar which
was doing a night watch on Area 51 and saw a 'something' descending at super fast speed
to the ground. The lights on the ground came on for about 10 seconds, the 'thing' was
seen to go super-fast from high up in the air to the ground, then the lights on the ground went
out again. Now, whether they made up that or filmed it as it took place, I dont know, but
I watched the program.
If that was the case, they would surely not use these aircraft over residential or heavily populated areas, that would defeat the purpose of keeping the cat in the bag.


And Id love to hear for what purpose one of these crafts hovered low over someones rural home, or stalk their vehicles late at night...if they are some secret experimental aircraft...what is the intent here? To make people believe there are 'extraterrestrial aliens' here? (that also begs the question of why a govt would want the public to believe that).
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Old Today, 06:51 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Some people have speculated that there are two factions 'fighting' against each other. Both have different agendas. One possibly is flaunting their technology and the other is trying to keep it under wraps. I dont know, and I agree that it is strange how our governments are desperately trying to keep secrets and yet, someone is putting it out there in our faces.

Where we do not see the occupants face-to-face we cannot tell who is the driver of these vehicles or whether there IS a driver other than AI. I dont think we would know or realise if there was such a divide between two factions, but it is certainly making itself known to more and more people and soon we will no longer be able to deny these craft exist - yet there are still some on here who(NASA) continue to tell us we should believe we are alone on this planet and nothing outside (bigger than a microbe) is visiting.

It is getting to be a big joke and credibility of government and science is being lost by the day.
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