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Old 07-30-2020, 03:42 PM
 
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In all the alternative/woo literature, it says that everyone leaves their body every night and goes slightly out of 'sync' with their physical body. This supposedly allows the spirit to recharge with the astral energies ready for the next day walking about in the physical. Slightly out of sync as far as I understand it, means floating a few inches above your physical body. This causes an occasional sinking/falling feeling when the astral body comes back into the body and is why sometimes when you wake up too quickly, you have a headache (or as I call it a 'thick head') because the two bodies have not got completely in line with each other. It seems to get better after a while as the two eventually become aligned with each other which is their normal position.

There are other phenomena which are said to be caused by the physical and astral separating, and that is being unable to move the body yet being conscious within it (sleep paralysis, catatonia), being able to see 360 degrees without moving your head, and then of course, actual getting up and moving around separately to the physical in a conscious aware way.

I was thinking that the literature tells us that the state of being catatonic comes before the lift-out of the physical, but I have only once had the feeling of not being able to move. I have always been able to wake up and move immediately - however quickly I need to wake. So, if we dont need this change-over period when we are effectively changing from being out-of-body to being in-body, then why do we need to be catatonic at all? It is this effect which is one of the feared stages in doing the separation and long with the fear of death is what stops people trying to do this.

I realise we will have some who just do not believe this is possible and point to the medical diagnosis for catatonia which is major depression among other things. However, there are enough books and people saying they can do it, to believe that this leaving the body thing is possible. Many of the sages of various religions have reported being able to separate from their body and native shamans also are supposed to be able to do it.

Does anyone else believe what they have read about this? Or, can anyone separate from their body either by will or just occasionally? I wondered who can do this apart from just a few 'lucky' ones. I think I read estimates are it is supposed to be about 5% of people.

I did it 4 or 5 times, when I was young. I'm not sure I could do it now.
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Old 07-30-2020, 11:30 PM
 
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I had to stop doing it because after i got really good at controlling my dreams I started to have a hard time telling dreaming from reality.
Of course, it depends on your view of life. If you considered you are a being who exists in multiple dimensions/realities at once, then there is your proof. However, if you are a science-type then there is only one reality and thats with your physical body on this Earth. Yes, it would become a problem if you tried to fly from a 26 storey building when you were in-body. This OOB thing is not for everyone I admit.

Anyone serious about it all, the link from Nerys52SoSilver in the second post to the forum is useful and informative.

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Ive been meaning to watch that movie, 'The men that stare at goats', even though its a comedy, Ive read the movie is pretty good and gives out some facts about the project and what they were able to achieve.
That movie is more about Remote Viewing which is supposed to be different as you are in-body all the time and also conscious and aware. RV is often described as a more scientific repeatable experience as the military were able to document a protocol so they could train other service personnel.
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Old 07-31-2020, 12:07 AM
 
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I have no idea what it is called. I used to be able to completely control everything in my dreams. I could think and react just like when awake but was able to do anything I wanted to. I could travel anywhere, be with whoever I wanted, jump from one scenario to another at will and anything else you could imagine. One of the things I remember the most and enjoyed the most was being able to fly. Not like Superman fly but more like raising a few inches off the ground and moving Kinda like being on a hoverboard now. The big difference is I didn't have to lean and no matter the speed there was no resistance in any way.

I don't relate it to anything paranormal. Just trained myself to do it over a coupe years. I had to stop doing it because after i got really good at controlling my dreams I started to have a hard time telling dreaming from reality.

EDIT: Now when I dream it is more like watching a movie/tv with no control over anythng. From my research back in the day this is how most people describe their dreams.
That must have been really cool to control your dreams to that degree, to jump from one thing to another, as you like! Ive been able to wake myself up on occasion, when a dream is not going so well, but thats the extent of my control abilities.


I remember back in the days when I first came off heroin, the dreams were HORRIFIC, and whats worse, I would have 'drug dreams', like I would find a big thing of heroin lying around, and in the dream I was so excited, but for some reason, I was NEVER able to actually ingest the drugs...there was always something preventing me or standing in my way, It was really bad for awhile, Im so glad all that is over and done with.
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Old 08-08-2020, 08:57 PM
 
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I suspect that if anyone wants to develop these abilities it needs some acknowledgement that you want that ability. It also probably needs for you to practice the various techniques or do the affirmations or whatever way you decide to learn to do it. The best way is probably different for each of us as I have been trying for a while and I have yet to achieve that conscious, aware state where I can realise I am 'out'.
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:28 PM
 
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Been there, done that....all of it.
Really? Care to share?

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Old 01-08-2021, 04:30 PM
 
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I suspect that if anyone wants to develop these abilities it needs some acknowledgement that you want that ability. It also probably needs for you to practice the various techniques or do the affirmations or whatever way you decide to learn to do it. The best way is probably different for each of us as I have been trying for a while and I have yet to achieve that conscious, aware state where I can realise I am 'out'.

When it happened to me, it did take some practice. But, when I was 'practicing' I thought I was practicing meditation, and didn't even know that meditation could be a way to astral travel.


In my case, it felt like the heavy part of me was sinking down, as opposed to a part of me rising up. In all honesty, it was a pleasant sensation to me, and I just thought it was part of being totally relaxed, but aware. I didn't realize I was leaving my body, until sometime after...when I decided to research just what the heck had happened to me, when I had travelled somewhere else.
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Old 01-08-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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Yoga masters can supposedly do this.
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Old 01-08-2021, 04:59 PM
 
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Yoga masters can supposedly do this.
If I was 13, and was able to do it, I'm sure yoga masters can.
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Old 01-11-2021, 11:33 PM
 
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In all the alternative/woo literature, it says that everyone leaves their body every night and goes slightly out of 'sync' with their physical body. This supposedly allows the spirit to recharge with the astral energies ready for the next day walking about in the physical. Slightly out of sync as far as I understand it, means floating a few inches above your physical body. This causes an occasional sinking/falling feeling when the astral body comes back into the body and is why sometimes when you wake up too quickly, you have a headache (or as I call it a 'thick head') because the two bodies have not got completely in line with each other. It seems to get better after a while as the two eventually become aligned with each other which is their normal position.

There are other phenomena which are said to be caused by the physical and astral separating, and that is being unable to move the body yet being conscious within it (sleep paralysis, catatonia), being able to see 360 degrees without moving your head, and then of course, actual getting up and moving around separately to the physical in a conscious aware way.

I was thinking that the literature tells us that the state of being catatonic comes before the lift-out of the physical, but I have only once had the feeling of not being able to move. I have always been able to wake up and move immediately - however quickly I need to wake. So, if we dont need this change-over period when we are effectively changing from being out-of-body to being in-body, then why do we need to be catatonic at all? It is this effect which is one of the feared stages in doing the separation and long with the fear of death is what stops people trying to do this.

I realise we will have some who just do not believe this is possible and point to the medical diagnosis for catatonia which is major depression among other things. However, there are enough books and people saying they can do it, to believe that this leaving the body thing is possible. Many of the sages of various religions have reported being able to separate from their body and native shamans also are supposed to be able to do it.

Does anyone else believe what they have read about this? Or, can anyone separate from their body either by will or just occasionally? I wondered who can do this apart from just a few 'lucky' ones. I think I read estimates are it is supposed to be about 5% of people.
Consider levels, heart / respiratory, etc, lowering, slowing muscle movement.

Similar to torpor, hibernation even.

(opossums, fainting goats)

Auto-Survival


Seeing / feeling, silver, (transparent), thread / cord tethering me to my self, thrumming, as wind, tugging, bouyant.

~
"Do you still see me even here?"
(The silver cord lies on the ground.)
~
Jethro Tull's The Silver Cord
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:34 AM
 
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No one has mentioned the obvious means of leaving one's body available through psychoactive substances. It's been decades but I can remember traveling the universe as a body-less, all-powerful being with the assistance of large doses of psilocybin. Shamans from all cultures have used this means for centuries to explore realms that our conscious minds can't perceive or contact.
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