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I thought this might be interesting to folks who have not seen this information before. Particularly interesting is the image of the attachments to the letter to Congress shown below. If you check out The Black Vault website they might have the original FOIA and resulting letters.
On this forum we have been discussing fairly often whether we think these 'UFOs' are government vehicles or not and this kind of information in this letter to Congress might answer a few questions we have wondered about.
Dec 16 2017, NYT published article which tells the public about the existence of AATIP which was run by Luis Elizondo.
Not long after, Congress was informed about AATIP in a letter on 9th January 2018. (see image taken from The UnXplained S02E12) There was also an attachment to the letter which said "Please find attached a list of all products produced under the AATIP contract for DIA to publish."
Black vault is a great site for this kind of information, the skeptics cannot deny there is SO MANY documents 'alluding' to and referring to these kinds of things.
Black vault is a great site for this kind of information, the skeptics cannot deny there is SO MANY documents 'alluding' to and referring to these kinds of things.
That list of "products" has been around quite a while.
The point of the post was to highlight the list and what is on it. The things we have been discussing over the past months argue whether the craft UFOs are military or ET and whether humans have the technology. This list would suggest we do have - if it is to be believed.
The point of the post was to highlight the list and what is on it. The things we have been discussing over the past months argue whether the craft UFOs are military or ET and whether humans have the technology. This list would suggest we do have - if it is to be believed.
A couple questions...If the 'Tic tac' was actually a secret experimental aircraft (man made), why would they be operating it out on the ocean, far from any air base...(places like Area 51 that design and build experimental aircraft are in secluded and remote locations for a very good reason...(THEY DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO SEE THESE AIRCRAFT)
Next, the pilot would have to have a death wish to be engaged with regular military aircraft and NOT announce themselves as 'friendlies', even if it was an unmanned aircraft, if it was experimental and had the capabilities the pilots reported, the risk of being shot down would be great, I dont believe they would risk such a valuable aircraft in this manner, especially over the open ocean, where it would be next to impossible to retrieve the wreckage if it was shot down.
Lastly, if this was truly a secret experimental aircraft, when the Pentagon was asked about it, they would have just said it was an experimental drone, or it was 'flares', or anything vague, so the public looses interest...the LAST thing they would do is suggest the craft was extraterrestrial.
A couple questions...If the 'Tic tac' was actually a secret experimental aircraft (man made), why would they be operating it out on the ocean, far from any air base...(places like Area 51 that design and build experimental aircraft are in secluded and remote locations for a very good reason...(THEY DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO SEE THESE AIRCRAFT)
Suppose the U.S. government developed a hypersonic drone and wanted to test the response of pilots and
flight personnel when they encounter one. They fly one near the Nimitz and observe the results. Note that only reason we know about the encounters is that the tapes were leaked. Which leak could itself be a further test, to see how the general public will react to sightings of the new technology.
The "products" referenced in the list are the papers issued by the authors -- not some hypothetical hardware developed by them or the government. NASA has or had a project investigating the possibility of building an Alcubierre FTL drive -- that doesn't mean they're actually building one - we don't have the technology for that now. They're called thought experiments - some of them result in actual experiments (or deeper insight into a problem), many of them don't go anywhere.
Suppose the U.S. government developed a hypersonic drone and wanted to test the response of pilots and
flight personnel when they encounter one. They fly one near the Nimitz and observe the results. Note that only reason we know about the encounters is that the tapes were leaked. Which leak could itself be a further test, to see how the general public will react to sightings of the new technology.
I dont think so, mainly because reports of these kinds of aircraft, go back decades...
If it was experimental then, we would see that technology being used in known aircraft today, the Stealth bomber is a great example...it didnt stay secret/experimental for decades, eventually it became public knowledge.
The "products" referenced in the list are the papers issued by the authors -- not some hypothetical hardware developed by them or the government. NASA has or had a project investigating the possibility of building an Alcubierre FTL drive -- that doesn't mean they're actually building one - we don't have the technology for that now. They're called thought experiments - some of them result in actual experiments (or deeper insight into a problem), many of them don't go anywhere.
That's correct. I was the manager of about 50 simultaneous university and small business contracts that were meant to harvest the creative ideas of scientists and professors for a wide variety of technical subjects. Subjects like "warp drive" and "antigravity" were not unusual and were expected. Value was only $10K each, which is a very small portion of a loaded man-year. You don't get any type of hardware or experimentation for such a low amount - just minor development of ideas. If an idea seems to have merit, then it can be pursued further. AATIP studies were no doubt the same way.
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