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Well then you'd understand how my mind creates these false memories of notable people dying who are still kicking.
It's very much on topic because in addition to the experiences, discussion of the root cause is also important.
Does your mind produce other false memories? Like things you believe you have done or places you think you have visited but in reality none of those things happened?
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Does your mind produce other false memories? Like
things you believe you have done or places you think you have
visited but in reality none of those things happened?
Yes: Lights I 'thought' I turned off or on, but didn't. Not flushing the toilet when I thought I did. Not disengaging the parking/emergency brake when I thought I did. Rudimentary stuff like that. No grand destinations, though.
Like I said, if my brain was an amusement park attraction, there would be very few second riders!
Is that like the Miracle at Fatima, when in 1915, many thousands of Portuguese people swore one day that they saw the sun spin around fast and plunge to the ground and the sky turned black, and the Virgin Mary spoke to them? But somehow it was not witnessed anywhere else in the world?
A particularly strange incident even noted by non-believers at the event.
Yes, The Mandela Effect is quite a well-known phenomena - not proven of course, but many people suspect something might be happening. Lots of people think it is a problem with our brains, a type of pareidolia whereby we think we have heard something previously as our brain tries to match up things for us.
Personally, I think it is a time-line jump, but thats a little waaaay out there for some people.
Only for "some" people?
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That is the definition of a miracle: Something for which there is no rational, scientific explanation. If divine intervention is the only explanation, you have a miracle.
Now, you can believe disbelieve in miracles. But you can't discount them for being what they claim to be.
Oh my gosh. Who exactly is doing this "divine intervention"? YOUR "god" or someone else's? And would you believe it if someone else's "god" is doing it? (Sorry, Mark S., I don't mean to pick on you -- but this is the same kind of thing I see in the Religion forums -- people believe so strongly in THEIR religion without acknowledging the very basic, very simple fact that OTHER people believe in THEIR religion just as strongly ... and it likely contradicts the original person's religion. But oh, no, THEIRS is "true," all others are false ... and of course the OTHER person believes the same thing about THEIR religion. )
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So I'm watching the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon last night, live, and (anyone else see it?) and he had on John Wayne as his guest? I could have sworn the Duke died decades ago but there he was....frail as sh*t but still the Duke. I fell outta my chair. I'm not the only one that saw this right?
Really? You just watched it the night before and somehow saw a "live" version of a long-dead person?
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Do you all know NOTHING about how memories work? They are not reliable indicators of "reality" -- as any police detective or psychologist could tell you.
My more basic question is, Why on earth would you IMMEDIATELY go to some sort of supernatural explanation?
Oh my gosh. Who exactly is doing this "divine intervention"? YOUR "god" or someone else's? And would you believe it if someone else's "god" is doing it? (Sorry, Mark S., I don't mean to pick on you -- but this is the same kind of thing I see in the Religion forums -- people believe so strongly in THEIR religion without acknowledging the very basic, very simple fact that OTHER people believe in THEIR religion just as strongly ... and it likely contradicts the original person's religion. But oh, no, THEIRS is "true," all others are false ... and of course the OTHER person believes the same thing about THEIR religion. )
Really? You just watched it the night before and somehow saw a "live" version of a long-dead person?
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Do you all know NOTHING about how memories work? They are not reliable indicators of "reality" -- as any police detective or psychologist could tell you.
My more basic question is, Why on earth would you IMMEDIATELY go to some sort of supernatural explanation?
Mine was a joke about John Wayne, thought more people would realize I was joking.
Those who identify this as the Mandela Effect are correct. It got its name from people who said, after Nelson Mandela died, that they remembered him dying in prison sometime in the 1970's. (If they were remembering anything I assume the real-life referent was to Steve Biko, an anti-apartheid activist who was murdered by the South African police in custody in 1977.)
It's purely a matter of mistaken memories. If you want to indulge in a tour of some of the most absurd beliefs people have, definitely google it. It covers the waterfront, from the Berenstain Bears (always spelled with an "a", because that was the last name of the authors), to the spelling of Oscar Mayer (there was even a song about the spelling; it was never changed), to where the figure in Rodin's sculpture "The Thinker" is holding his hand (I've seen it; it was always in the chin) and on and on.
If you're interested in this phenomenon spend some time talking to your siblings about events when you were growing up. I predict that you will find certain incidents where you and a sibling are equally convinced that some event happened in a particular way, but your memories of what happened are directly contradictory.
Occam's Razor: which is more likely, that something happened that suddenly changed every photograph in the world of "The Thinker" from having his hand on his forehead to having his hand on his chin, or that some number of people, who had never seen the sculpture in person, had a vague but mistaken recollection of this detail?
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