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Old 04-23-2021, 09:50 AM
 
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Fun fact: "Transparent" ghosts are largely an invention of literature and film, beginning in England in the 19th century. In older tales of ghosts --- and even some of the more modern ones --- the person often had no idea they were interacting with a ghost until afterward, when they learned the person had died. The ghost looked just as real as anyone.

Here is a review of a book about that:

How Ghosts Became Transparent, and Other Spectral Evolutions
https://hyperallergic.com/410649/the...tural-history/

Which is why when I hear of people reportedly seeing a transparent spirit or disembodied parts floating around, I have doubts that what they saw was a ghost.
The ghost has been around much longer than that...


Even if you are not religious, the bible mentions when Jesus appeared to the Apostles after being crucified, they presumed him to be a 'ghost'...(meaning the word was in use at that time and their belief was, a ghost is the spirit of a once living person.


Im not sure if there are earlier references to 'ghosts', although I imagine there are, if the Apostles knew the word.


The 'ghost' I saw, didnt look human at all, but it did have a transparent-ish/ smokey appearance.
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:53 AM
 
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I don't know of any way one could have a conversation with a child about a ghost other than speculative or historical.

I'd have trouble knowing if it were a wraith, a phantom, a spectre, a spook, an apparition or a revenant or whether it was just some misplaced molecules acting counter to known laws of physics.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:59 PM
 
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The ghost has been around much longer than that...

Even if you are not religious, the bible mentions when Jesus appeared to the Apostles after being crucified, they presumed him to be a 'ghost'...(meaning the word was in use at that time and their belief was, a ghost is the spirit of a once living person.

Im not sure if there are earlier references to 'ghosts', although I imagine there are, if the Apostles knew the word.

The 'ghost' I saw, didnt look human at all, but it did have a transparent-ish/ smokey appearance.

You didn't actually read the article, did you?

Yes. Ghosts have been around for thousands of years. Tales of ghosts are probably pre-historic.

But transparent ghosts? Those are an invention of literature, theater, and film. Those are only a couple of centuries old.
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Old 04-23-2021, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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What are YOU telling your kids?
What SHOULD we be telling our kids about ghosts and can they talk to us about them if they have concerns?
I told my kids that ghosts are awesome! They are featured on lots of cartoons and movies and stuff.

My younger son used to call for me shortly after I put him to bed. This was a ritual that went on for a while. When I got to his room he would tell me he's afraid of "skeletons", which I guess he saw on a TV show. I would look out the window and yell at the "skeletons" to leave because they are scaring my son! I'd even pretend they were talking back and then I'd say "No, you go away now!" And my son would giggle. I really don't think he was afraid of "skeletons"; I think he just want to see me go through the ritual!

Everyone knows there is no such thing as ghosts, but it's fun to pretend they are real!
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Old 04-24-2021, 02:16 AM
 
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You didn't actually read the article, did you?

Yes. Ghosts have been around for thousands of years. Tales of ghosts are probably pre-historic.

But transparent ghosts? Those are an invention of literature, theater, and film. Those are only a couple of centuries old.
Well, the thing I saw in my Girlfriends stairwell had a 'transparent' look to it...''ghost' is the best thing I can think of to describe what it was...


Maybe 'transparent' is not the right word to use for the thing I saw...it looked like a ball of grayish smoke, that was somewhat see thru, it was not a thick smoke, and did not really behave like smoke does...its hard for me to find words to adequately describe it. ( I can still see it in my head clear as the day it happened...about 26 yrs ago).
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Old 04-24-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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Everyone knows there is no such thing as ghosts, but it's fun to pretend they are real!
Yet, there are many things which are still not proven as real, but we can see the result. There are plenty of people who are experiencing what they call ghosts either intelligent or residual ones. Just because science has not pronounced them as real does not mean they do not exist.

In science they "pretend" things are real(called hypotheses), then they devise experiments to "prove" it, dont they? As atoms became more and more familiar to science people started to "pretend" there were smaller and smaller pieces to the puzzle and then eventually they observed them as "real". (I put real in quotes because we dont actually know if anything exists outside of an observation of it, do we?) So, why are ghosties not "real" too?
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Old 04-25-2021, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Yet, there are many things which are still not proven as real, but we can see the result. There are plenty of people who are experiencing what they call ghosts either intelligent or residual ones. Just because science has not pronounced them as real does not mean they do not exist.

In science they "pretend" things are real(called hypotheses), then they devise experiments to "prove" it, dont they? As atoms became more and more familiar to science people started to "pretend" there were smaller and smaller pieces to the puzzle and then eventually they observed them as "real". (I put real in quotes because we dont actually know if anything exists outside of an observation of it, do we?) So, why are ghosties not "real" too?
In general terms, when talking to children, ghosts are not real. Since this is your thread and you chose the title, you should realized what a child's concept of a ghost is, and that kids are not thinking in scientific terms. Don't get me wrong, it's cool to watch The Ghost Chasers or whatever they're called (we watched the "Dude! Dude!" guys on one of the cable channels) and we always rooted for them to find actual proof.
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Old 04-25-2021, 08:56 PM
 
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In general terms, when talking to children, ghosts are not real.
Not sure what you mean here. Many kids see ghosts or spirits, so how come they are not real? More kids see spirits than we realize and most natural mediums have the ability since childhood.

No, of course kids dont know about science yet, but they do realize when they report something which is not fully in our 3D like you are I are at the moment. This to them is a ghost.

So, for you there is no such thing as a ghost and everything is 3D physical?
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Old 04-28-2021, 08:40 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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I don't have children, but if I did......I know we'd be having ourselves a good laugh


*Trigger Warning*


[There's a ghost, don't say I didn't warn you...]


Ghost Car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1W...LHtG&index=158
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