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Old 05-27-2021, 07:22 AM
 
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If there's an alien-demon connection, it would be that primitive man mistook aliens for demons, not that modern man mistook demons for aliens.
That is very possible, but for that to happen, would not the aliens have to do things, that appeared to be 'demonic'?


Or would the sight of them be enough to fool them? IDK? Its a good question.
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Old 05-27-2021, 08:41 AM
 
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Then how do you explain the unidentified flying objects that many people have witnessed and caught on camera? The abductions? Ever read about the Phoenix Lights? Are all those tens of thousands of witnesses mistaken?

Can you explain what those 60 or so children in Zimbabwe saw hovering over their school yard?

The rest of your list indeed requires faith. I'm not sure why that is. Maybe at one time actual proof of God/angels/demons existed, but it was purposely erased by those who didn't want the truth known? Knowing the human race as we do, can you definitely say that couldn't or didn't happen?

Do you really believe humans built those pyramids?

Since none of us can explain any of these things, it's only natural that we speculate and discuss... and maybe argue a little.
They are unidentified flying objects. That’s it. Until evidence is presented to prove the origin and nature of a flying element, it is simply unidentified. Not supernatural. Not alien. Not anything.

The time to believe something is when the evidence has been presented.

Showing a picture of some light in the sky does not imply, infer, or indicate anything at all. We know that lights appear in the sky. We know meteors interact with the atmosphere. We know lightning has unusual manifestations at time. We know reflections from the ground sometimes make an appearance in then sky. So far, there has never been any convincing evidence that any unidentified flying object is anything really interesting at all. It’s always been just another mundane event.

We have no evidence ever of any alien abducted anything. All alien abduction claims have amounted to nothing more than personal testimony. And as we all know, personal testimony is basically garbage.
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Old 05-27-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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They are unidentified flying objects. That’s it. Until evidence is presented to prove the origin and nature of a flying element, it is simply unidentified. Not supernatural. Not alien. Not anything.

The time to believe something is when the evidence has been presented.

Showing a picture of some light in the sky does not imply, infer, or indicate anything at all. We know that lights appear in the sky. We know meteors interact with the atmosphere. We know lightning has unusual manifestations at time. We know reflections from the ground sometimes make an appearance in then sky. So far, there has never been any convincing evidence that any unidentified flying object is anything really interesting at all. It’s always been just another mundane event.

We have no evidence ever of any alien abducted anything. All alien abduction claims have amounted to nothing more than personal testimony. And as we all know, personal testimony is basically garbage.
Im sorry, but that is inaccurate, we do have recovered 'implant devices', which have been analyzed as well.


As to the other part of your post, you are somewhat correct, while they are 'unidentified flying objects'...the nature of their abilities is far beyond our current technological limits, (therein lies the root of the problem)...


The Pentagon confirms these are NOT experimental or military aircraft in development...its very unlikely they belong to any other nation...process of elimination can be used to rule certain things out.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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I believe the Phoenix lights were fully explained and were a formation of A-10s operating out of Davis-Monthan from Operation Snowbird flying in formation at the same time as the sightings with their formation lights on and the usual blinking collision lights off. There were other A-10s involved in the same exercises that were dropping aerial flares. Why do we immediately jump to interstellar explanations when we can't identify something in the sky?
I'd be curious to know where you heard that.

The military and our government denied having anything to do with those Phoenix lights. When City Councilwomen Barwood demanded answers from our government, government officials and the press mocked her and attempted to made her look like a lunatic.

Something had violated our air space, and our military knew nothing about it. But now they've changed their story to include A-10s and flares?

Hmmmmm. Yeah, right.
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Old 05-27-2021, 12:05 PM
 
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If we, homo sapiens, were able to travel to other planets rich in natural resources and inhabited by primitive civilizations we'd soon be at war with their inhabitants and pillaging their natural resources. Just to put things into perspective as to who the cosmic good guys are and who the bad guys are.
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Old 05-27-2021, 01:26 PM
 
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If we, homo sapiens, were able to travel to other planets rich in natural resources and inhabited by primitive civilizations we'd soon be at war with their inhabitants and pillaging their natural resources. Just to put things into perspective as to who the cosmic good guys are and who the bad guys are.
The Galactic Federation appears to have superior technology, so we wouldn't be allowed to do that. At best all we'd be able to do is propose a motion of no confidence in the Senate.
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Old 05-27-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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So you think those trillions of dollars the U.S. spent on the war in Iraq made America a better place?

I think, instead, that if the U.S. had invested those trillions in repairing and improving its infrastructure, funding healthcare, and preparing for the inevitable pandemics America would be a far better place today.

And that's not even taking into account the 30,000 lost and shattered American lives sacrificed in the Iraq war. Or America's tattered moral authority.

It's not in this context, that's not the development of technology that the poster was talking about.
The major developments of technology, the major breaks-through happen when the wars take place between EQUAL in their capacities enemies.

Like say what took place during the WWII.
Or what took place during the "Cold War" ( and what keeps on happening now actually, because of the current stand-off between the US and Russia.)
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Old 05-27-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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Judging from its current 'popularity', dunno where anyone might ever get the idea that astrology has become 'obsolete'?!

And yes, it may simply be a matter of 'semantics', but as far as the 'impossibility' of any discussion ever descending into competing 'religious beliefs', would imagine there are plenty of Mods here who've encountered their own fair share of 'exceptions'!
Why Astrology is So Popular Today | Reader's Digest
People tend to turn to astrology during periods of instability, and the last few years have definitely been that—political unrest, the climate crisis and now fears around health and economic well-being. When times get tough, people want to feel like they’re part of something bigger than just the day-to-day grind. Some people may turn to religion or places of worship to find that meaning, and others turn to astrology.

By saying that the astrology became obsolete at certain point in time, I meant that after the arrival of Christianity ( or monotheistic religions,) astrology became the thing of the past, and probably would be regarded as part of the witchcraft in times of inquisition for example. Because it was closely related to worshiping of multiple gods may be in the past.

Now when it made the comeback, who knows how accurate it is, when it comes to the personal horoscopes for example.
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Old 05-27-2021, 02:38 PM
 
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It's not in this context, that's not the development of technology that the poster was talking about.
The major developments of technology, the major breaks-through happen when the wars take place between EQUAL in their capacities enemies.

Like say what took place during the WWII.
Or what took place during the "Cold War" ( and what keeps on happening now actually, because of the current stand-off between the US and Russia.)
Cold wars aren't wars. The wars we should be fighting are wars against disease, hunger, poverty, drought, lack of clean water, homelessness, accidents and crime. We're losing all those wars.
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Old 05-27-2021, 02:44 PM
 
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Cold wars aren't wars.

They still are, in the context of development of technology.


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The wars we should be fighting are wars against disease, hunger, poverty, drought, lack of clean water, homelessness, accidents and crime. We're losing all those wars.

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference."


^

Have you ever heard this by any chance?
It's called the serenity prayer.
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