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Old 10-04-2021, 10:56 PM
 
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There is NO evidence that scientifically proves they are real. Humans can make most of the evidence you claim is proof of their existence. You have no corpus or even piece of a body and nobody has ever captured one. There are more cameras than people in the US and you have no clear video footage. About one in five of us have mental problems each year, five thousand sightings in over fifty years for an unstable population does not stand out as unusual. Also, you have all the misidentification of bears, tree stumps, foliage, and humans.

Our technology has improved over the years and today we are in this race to collect information on everybody and everything. Everything is being recorded so somebody can sell us something or make money off their information. Bigfoot had its time, but the world moved on.
If so many people are having mental problems, why do we not see sightings of 'other things' very often?


How likely is it all these mentally ill people, are seeing the SAME THING? LOL Wouldnt some of them report it was purple, or had horns on its head, or maybe it had wings (a flying bigfoot!), while others reported seeing Centaurs, Satyers (spelling?), etc?



Some deer , elk and moose have large antlers...I could see a mentally ill person thinking they saw a Bigfoot with horns or antlers....(but strangely 99% report them exactly the same way) Im assuming its pretty rare or unheard of for numerous mentally ill people to all report the same delusion.
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Old 10-05-2021, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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If so many people are having mental problems, why do we not see sightings of 'other things' very often?


How likely is it all these mentally ill people, are seeing the SAME THING? LOL Wouldnt some of them report it was purple, or had horns on its head, or maybe it had wings (a flying bigfoot!), while others reported seeing Centaurs, Satyers (spelling?), etc?



Some deer , elk and moose have large antlers...I could see a mentally ill person thinking they saw a Bigfoot with horns or antlers....(but strangely 99% report them exactly the same way) Im assuming its pretty rare or unheard of for numerous mentally ill people to all report the same delusion.
You have individuals and organizations fixated on Bigfoot. This promotes your Bigfoot myth. You report what you want us to hear. Even though the BFRO organization only has about 5000 listed sightings - all of those sightings fail to produce any evidence.

Here is another organization that lists strange things people have seen: https://www.truthfacts.net/Since082514/Strange30.html. According to that link, about 70,000 people witnessed the miracle of Fatima in Portugal. They saw the sun come closer and then recede. Or another instant wherein 1812 people in Missouri saw orbs in the sky during a large earthquake. Some of these sightings could be real and some could be the product of mass hysteria? But we need evidence and further sightings to prove exactly what happened.

As far as what mental patients see or don't see, I am not doing the right search. I am sure there are plenty of stories of pink elephants and crazy-looking animals and people, but I have no links.
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Old 10-05-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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You have individuals and organizations fixated on Bigfoot. This promotes your Bigfoot myth. You report what you want us to hear. Even though the BFRO organization only has about 5000 listed sightings - all of those sightings fail to produce any evidence.

Here is another organization that lists strange things people have seen: https://www.truthfacts.net/Since082514/Strange30.html. According to that link, about 70,000 people witnessed the miracle of Fatima in Portugal. They saw the sun come closer and then recede. Or another instant wherein 1812 people in Missouri saw orbs in the sky during a large earthquake. Some of these sightings could be real and some could be the product of mass hysteria? But we need evidence and further sightings to prove exactly what happened.

As far as what mental patients see or don't see, I am not doing the right search. I am sure there are plenty of stories of pink elephants and crazy-looking animals and people, but I have no links.
Well, Im just wanting to know your opinion on why SO MANY report the same thing and describe it the same way.
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Old 10-05-2021, 12:57 PM
 
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Well, Im just wanting to know your opinion on why SO MANY report the same thing and describe it the same way.
A few people are making up the majority of these "reports". They keep the stories similar to ones others believe to keep their new stories believed.
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Old 10-05-2021, 10:41 PM
 
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A few people are making up the majority of these "reports". They keep the stories similar to ones others believe to keep their new stories believed.
Well thats not mental illness then...Im not sure what that is. Whats the point of filing a FAKE sighting report if you just an average Joe?, (not trying to sell a book, or attract clicks to your cryptid website, etc)...


Majority of people will look negatively upon a person who reports such a thing, they will think they are using drugs, or mentally ill, it could even impact their jobs, (look at the various scientists that have publicly went on record saying they believe in Sasquatch...they are looked down upon by their peers, they become the laughing stock).


Plus, this doesnt explain sighting of these things 100s of years ago, there were report databases back then or internet to look up cryptid reports, many of the old reports come from areas where (back in those days), most didnt know how to read and write)...not sure why they would try to 'fake' a sighting, or where they would even get the idea to do that.


The fact is, people are seeing something, and have been for a long time, its humanoid and large, a cross between an ape and a human basically.
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Old 10-06-2021, 03:39 AM
 
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Well thats not mental illness then...Im not sure what that is. Whats the point of filing a FAKE sighting report if you just an average Joe?, (not trying to sell a book, or attract clicks to your cryptid website, etc)...


Majority of people will look negatively upon a person who reports such a thing, they will think they are using drugs, or mentally ill, it could even impact their jobs, (look at the various scientists that have publicly went on record saying they believe in Sasquatch...they are looked down upon by their peers, they become the laughing stock).


Plus, this doesnt explain sighting of these things 100s of years ago, there were report databases back then or internet to look up cryptid reports, many of the old reports come from areas where (back in those days), most didnt know how to read and write)...not sure why they would try to 'fake' a sighting, or where they would even get the idea to do that.


The fact is, people are seeing something, and have been for a long time, its humanoid and large, a cross between an ape and a human basically.
More reports occurred after Hollywood stepped in.

Before Hollywood and the internet, people tried to make sense out of things they did not understand. If they saw a bear with the mange they could not look it up, it just looked like an evil Dogman. Sometimes they simply did not get a good look at what they were seeing, like a bear in the foliage. So they misinterpreted what they actually saw.

If your creatures are real and have lived for hundreds or thousands of years, there would be proof of their existence. They would be eating things and leaving behind bones and other signs of their existence.

You have not provided one scrap of solid evidence. Stories are not proof, they are only the start. To the best of our knowledge, nobody has ever been attacked by one. Stories of stone-throwing without seeing who threw the stone, do not add up to the mythical beast.
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Old 10-06-2021, 10:31 PM
 
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More reports occurred after Hollywood stepped in.

Before Hollywood and the internet, people tried to make sense out of things they did not understand. If they saw a bear with the mange they could not look it up, it just looked like an evil Dogman. Sometimes they simply did not get a good look at what they were seeing, like a bear in the foliage. So they misinterpreted what they actually saw.

If your creatures are real and have lived for hundreds or thousands of years, there would be proof of their existence. They would be eating things and leaving behind bones and other signs of their existence.

You have not provided one scrap of solid evidence. Stories are not proof, they are only the start. To the best of our knowledge, nobody has ever been attacked by one. Stories of stone-throwing without seeing who threw the stone, do not add up to the mythical beast.
You dont think Native Americans that lived 100s of years ago, knew what a bear with mange looked like? Really?


Its not just the native Americans either, almost every culture had some term for a creature like this (long before advertising or movies)...where would they get the idea for something like this?


Native Americans say they were once a separate tribe and they lived just as the indians did.
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Old 10-07-2021, 01:49 AM
 
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Indigenous people from every part of the world have folklore about creatures that don't exist. Some are even worshiped. Take a look at ancient Greeks who believed in such things as cyclops and medusa and Pegasus. Did they really see these things? I think not. Yet they told stories about them and built monument to them. Dragons of SE Asia is another good example. There are probably hundreds of examples of this.
You can't take a creature from native folklore and make it real and use that belief to try and prove it exists, but that's what you're doing.
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Old 10-07-2021, 04:43 AM
 
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You dont think Native Americans that lived 100s of years ago, knew what a bear with mange looked like? Really?


Its not just the native Americans either, almost every culture had some term for a creature like this (long before advertising or movies)...where would they get the idea for something like this?


Native Americans say they were once a separate tribe and they lived just as the indians did.
Many of the Native American stories were also of one of your creatures that were no bigger than the average size man. So you tend to ignore those stories in favor of the giants.

If these creatures are real and have been around for hundreds or thousands of years, there would be physical evidence. As marino760 points out about the cyclops and Medusa, Pegasus, and dragons; stories do not make myths real.
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Old 10-07-2021, 06:31 AM
 
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Its not just the native Americans either, almost every culture had some term for a creature like this (long before advertising or movies)...where would they get the idea for something like this?
The same place we get ideas for Spider-Man, Batman, Luke Skywalker, the Terminator, Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, Count Dracula, Cthulhu, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. Human beings have great imaginations and we love to tell stories. Just because we enjoy stories about talking wabbits doesn't mean our ancestors really ran across talking rabbits.


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Native Americans say they were once a separate tribe and they lived just as the indians did.
Some Indian nations also have origin stories where they came from the Underworld. They have stories of Spider Woman and Wendigos and all sorts of spirits and monsters. Norse tales said the Earth was made from the corpse of a dead giant. Mythology does not equal history.
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