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My feeling is it will be sooner, rather than later. The point is it is all about money. If people can invent/make machines that can replicate and produce products very cheaply (without labor cost), then it will happen sooner.
Its funny, many people used to theorize that all the fast food places would automate if they ever had major trouble hiring and staffing their restaurants...but when Covid hit and lots of fast food workers quit...we DID NOT see any of them going to automation, in fact, most of them started adjusting their operating hours instead, (closing very early and sometimes closed for whole days)!
Even the McDonalds around here adjusted their hours due to staffing problems, its weird they decided to shut down early instead of automating.
I dont think the technology is there yet to actually replace workers...I worked fast food decades ago, I didnt just stand there and do one job all day, I was asked to do all sorts of things, making food, running the register, cleaning bathrooms, etc...they would really need humanoid robots to replace human workers, an automated cash register cannot go clean the bathroom when a customer makes a mess, or argue with a customer when they claim they were short changed.
I am curious how those who believe aliens are visiting us think they have overcome the speed of light limitations of travel throughout the universe . Given that it would take dozens to hundreds of years to travel even one way from our nearest neighbors unless this limitation is overcome , and the same to return home with whatever info they have gleaned from their visit , how are they getting around this quickly ? And given that the energy needed to approach the speed of light becomes enormous as you reach any meaningful percentage of the SoL , how are they powering themselves for decades long trips? And feeding themselves on these long long journeys ?
I’m just curious how those who believe this is happening have worked out the necessary logistics for hundreds of millions of MPH trips 24/7/365 nonstop for dozens of years .
The UFOs could be unmanned, sort of like voyager 1, just doing reconnaissance. It's also possible that the life forms are not human at all but an entirely different kingdom that can withstand interstellar travel. Perhaps they are of another realm? In any case, I believe UFOs are real, that humans are relatively new to this universe and would be wise to keep an open mind.
The UFOs could be unmanned, sort of like voyager 1, just doing reconnaissance. It's also possible that the life forms are not human at all but an entirely different kingdom that can withstand interstellar travel. Perhaps they are of another realm? In any case, I believe UFOs are real, that humans are relatively new to this universe and would be wise to keep an open mind.
I agree with your last part of the post, but doing recon for 1000s of years?
And consider all the UFO reports...its not coming from powerful, influential people...they are reported by average people/nobodies, frequently the UFOs just pop up suddenly and dont stick around long, enough time for them to be seen and thats about it, then they fly off or vanish into thin air.
So technically, if the reports are accurate, they arent sticking around long enough to observe or recon.
More than likely, ALL our theories are probably wrong, they could be something we dont even have a term for, or something beyond our comprehension.
Lots of relativistic mysteries, and those of biology and evolution too, but we can actually do better with just a simple guess and some assumptions and some known info.
We earthlings just set a speed record for spacecraft in April - 330,000 mph. That's, hm, 0.05% of c, according to the article. Should we be conceited enough to say, that's IT? No "better" or "faster" technology will exist? Of course not. I'm willing to go 10x what we can do - and leave it at 0.5% c. That's dang fast. But you'll have to approach 90% of c before the time you "gain" will amount to something meaningful. So we can exclude the "but they don't age" theory. However, at just 0.5%c, and roughly 3 million miles an hour - where can ya go?
You'd need just 4 months (9B/3M/24=125) to exit our solar system. If we're going to assume that aliens live on planets, and planets live around stars, we need to get 4 light years from here.
How long at 3Mmph? A lonnnng time. But not as long as you'd think. 0.5%c, it means 200 years to go a light year.
Or 800 years to get to an Alien planet. Am I hugely wrong so far?
What if they have even better technology, and a generational ship - just 2x more juice, and they're here in 400 years.
Maybe they regularly live to be 4000, so they don't care that much. Or maybe it's their great-great-great- grand aliens that have made it this far...and they just hover outside of our solar system...except when they make the 4 month journey to Earth to pick up Krispy-Kreme.
Stop me if I've made a huge math error somewhere - it's possible - but even so, you get my point. No magic is required, and barely an imagination. It is indeed possible.
Now, if we include usual flock of "magical" things - it exceeds possible, and becomes likely. Not likely that anyone visited - nope, I think that's bunk - but likely that someone/something could.
I agree with your last part of the post, but doing recon for 1000s of years?
And consider all the UFO reports...its not coming from powerful, influential people...they are reported by average people/nobodies, frequently the UFOs just pop up suddenly and dont stick around long, enough time for them to be seen and thats about it, then they fly off or vanish into thin air.
So technically, if the reports are accurate, they arent sticking around long enough to observe or recon.
More than likely, ALL our theories are probably wrong, they could be something we dont even have a term for, or something beyond our comprehension.
The US military has already come forth with UFO evidence. So average Jimmys and Joes aren't just making stuff up. I don't make stuff up. I never used to believe in UFOs until I saw stuff not possible by any rocket, jet, space junk, comet or anything known to man. Their technology is far more advanced. They can travel much faster and do maneuvers, stop on a dime and reverse course, etc., not currently possible here on Earth.
The US military has already come forth with UFO evidence. So average Jimmys and Joes aren't just making stuff up. I don't make stuff up. I never used to believe in UFOs until I saw stuff not possible by any rocket, jet, space junk, comet or anything known to man. Their technology is far more advanced. They can travel much faster and do maneuvers, stop on a dime and reverse course, etc., not currently possible here on Earth.
I agree that citizens are not just making it up, I was just pointing out normal citizens make up all the UFO reports, there is just not much significance to the people they are appearing to, (that is what I find odd).
Now, if they were appearing to well known influential people, that would be understandable, considering they have influence over many people. I just cannot understand what they could possibly be doing, in appearing where they do...such as, hovering over a neighborhood in the middle of the night, or popping up to toy around with our commercial aircraft briefly.
There is no rhyme or reason to their behavior, its not indicative of anything really.
I agree that citizens are not just making it up, I was just pointing out normal citizens make up all the UFO reports, there is just not much significance to the people they are appearing to, (that is what I find odd).
Now, if they were appearing to well known influential people, that would be understandable, considering they have influence over many people. I just cannot understand what they could possibly be doing, in appearing where they do...such as, hovering over a neighborhood in the middle of the night, or popping up to toy around with our commercial aircraft briefly.
There is no rhyme or reason to their behavior, its not indicative of anything really.
There might be some people who just want publicity or want instagram followers or something of that sort but, then there are also true stories.
Its funny, many people used to theorize that all the fast food places would automate if they ever had major trouble hiring and staffing their restaurants...but when Covid hit and lots of fast food workers quit...we DID NOT see any of them going to automation, in fact, most of them started adjusting their operating hours instead, (closing very early and sometimes closed for whole days)!
Even the McDonalds around here adjusted their hours due to staffing problems, its weird they decided to shut down early instead of automating.
I dont think the technology is there yet to actually replace workers...I worked fast food decades ago, I didnt just stand there and do one job all day, I was asked to do all sorts of things, making food, running the register, cleaning bathrooms, etc...they would really need humanoid robots to replace human workers, an automated cash register cannot go clean the bathroom when a customer makes a mess, or argue with a customer when they claim they were short changed.
I quote: "A recent Federal Reserve survey of chief financial officers found that at firms with difficulty hiring, one-third are implementing or exploring automation to replace workers."
I quote: "A recent Federal Reserve survey of chief financial officers found that at firms with difficulty hiring, one-third are implementing or exploring automation to replace workers."
Im not sure how it is in PA right now, but from the businesses I frequent from day to day, majority of them are clearly having staffing issues, (many openly admit they cannot find employees)...
The company I work for has the same problem, and (since we were bought out), we are now owned by the #1 largest gas station/ C store chain in the world, 14K locations worldwide, Many times, our stores have a single person working, Managers are now permitted to close early/open late for non 24 hour stores.
Automation is not even being considered in our stores, it wouldnt be able to match what human employees can do.
Im not sure how it is in PA right now, but from the businesses I frequent from day to day, majority of them are clearly having staffing issues, (many openly admit they cannot find employees)...
The company I work for has the same problem, and (since we were bought out), we are now owned by the #1 largest gas station/ C store chain in the world, 14K locations worldwide, Many times, our stores have a single person working, Managers are now permitted to close early/open late for non 24 hour stores.
Automation is not even being considered in our stores, it wouldnt be able to match what human employees can do.
I listen to a financial podcaster called Clark Howard, and he said that statistics showed that even before the pandemic, we were starting to have hiring difficulties.
It’ll be interesting in about five years to read exactly why. I honestly believe in things like this we do not have the ability to get out of our own way to figure out what’s going on. Our internal biases make us see what we want to see and believe what we want to believe and not necessarily the truth.
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