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Old 09-13-2009, 01:27 PM
 
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Ben Rich was former vice-president of Lockheed, which btw works on secret projects for the U.S. government. Ben Rich was also the father of Stealth technology. He made some startling comments before he died of cancer. He acknowledged the existance of extraterrestrials and he stated that we already have the means to travel to the stars and it would take an act of God to get these technologies to benefit humanity. He said that these technologies are locked up in black projects. Rich made other comments like "If you have seen it on Star Trek or Star Wars, we have already done it and that there are things in the Nevada dessert that are 50 years beyond what our brightest minds can imagine and that it would take another 50 years before its public knowledge. SO folks, unless the ETs reveal themselves, most of us alive today may never know the truth because the government isnt going to ever spill the beans. But you have to wonder how advance in technology we really are. After all it was recently when stealth technology was revealed to the public but that technology has been kept secret for over 40 years without the public finding out. Since technology never stands still you have to wonder what the government has been able to accomplish over the last 40 years with technology still being kept secret today.
Boy, you REALLY ARE a dedicated conspiracy theorist, aren't you?
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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a conspiracy doesnt mean its not true
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:49 AM
 
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TOP AIRCRAFT DESIGNER REPORTEDLY CONFIRMED ROSWELL


CNI News thanks William Louis (Bill) McDonald for sharing this information,
which he acquired through private conversations with the late John Andrews of
the Testor Corporation. McDonald, a private investigator and forensic
composite illustrator who has made detailed reconstructions of the Roswell
UFO based on eyewitness testimony, worked closely with Andrews on the design
of Testor's Roswell UFO model kit which was released in July 1997 on the 50th
anniversary of the Roswell incident. Based on McDonald's original drawings,
Andrews developed the Roswell model piece by piece, and McDonald in turn
created blueprints which resulted in Testor's tooling for the kit. What began
as a business relationship evolved into a deep personal friendship. In time,
Andrews shared information that confirmed elements of McDonald's Roswell
investigation. Finally, McDonald says, he prevailed upon Andrews to ask
then-ailing Ben Rich, late head of Lockheed's "Skunkworks," to describe the
relationship, if any, between possibly recovered UFO materials at Roswell and
advances in aircraft design that occurred starting in the mid 1950s. McDonald
resolved to withhold the answers while Andrews remained alive. Andrews died
earlier this year of cancer.

By William L. McDonald

Now that legendary Lockheed engineer and Chief model kit designer for the
Testor Corporation John Andrews is dead, I can announce that he personally
confirmed the design connection between the Roswell Spacecraft and the
Lockheed Martin Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs), spyplanes, Joint Strike
Fighters, and Space Shuttles. Andrews was a close personal friend of "Skunk
Works" CEO Ben Rich, the hand-picked successor of Skunk Works founder Kelly
Johnson and the man famous for the F-117 Nighthawk "Stealth" fighter, its
half-pint prototype the HAVE BLUE, and the top secret F-19 Stealth
Interceptor. Before Rich died of cancer, Andrews took my questions to him.
Rich confirmed:

1. There are two types of UFOs - the ones we build, and ones THEY build. We
learned from both crash retrievals and actual "Hand-me-downs." The Government
knew, and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that
information. After a 1969 Nixon "Purge", administration was handled by an
international board of directors in the private sector.

2. "'An' item" - as opposed to "'The' item" - was recovered near the
world's only combat operational atom bomb base (Roswell AAF) in 1947. Hull
design, aerodynamic measurements and propulsion info was passed directly to
Jack Northrop and Kelly Johnson, beginning in 1950, with a major block of
data being passed on from "The Working Group" at Wright Patterson AFB's
Foreign Technologies Division in 1952. "'The' item" refers to the top secret
designation of Kelly's original variant of the U-2 (TR-1) spy plane in
Congressional and Pentagon budgets in the 1950s.

3. Nearly all "Biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell
spacecraft, from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and
aerospace craft.

4. The inward canted vertical stabilizers of the F-19, the HAVE BLUE, many
drones, some UCAVs, and the SR-71 matched the 30 degree inward cant of the
Roswell spacecraft's shark fin-shaped pair of verticle stabilizers or
"Winglets." The same goes for the wing camber to fusilage "Blend" of the
airframe designs.

5. The outward cants of the F-22 Raptor, the F-117, the McDonnell Douglas
YF-23, and the TACIT BLUE stealth concept prototypes perform similar
aerodynamic functions for stability in high performance flight.

6. Rich observed that the impression Kelly Johnson's contacts had of "Them"
was negative, and Kelly implied in rare conversations on the subject that
"Factions" from "Out there" were a threat more than they were a blessing, and
that the cost of having "Them" around was "Unimaginable" and "Unbelievable."

7. It was Ben Rich's opinion that the public should not be told. He believed
they could not handle the truth, ever.
Only in the last months of his decline
did he begin to feel that the "International corporate board of directors"
dealing with the "Subject" could represent a bigger problem to citizens'
personal freedoms under the United States Constitution than the presence of
offworld visitors themselves.

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Old 09-15-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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On the morning of September 16, 1994, teachers and school officials at the Ariel School in Ruwa, Zimbabwe were amazed when the school's students, aged approximately 5 to 12 years old, reported that a flying object had landed on the school grounds.

The teachers at the school were in a meeting, so the 62 children were basically unsupervised while in the schoolyard on morning recess. The only available adult seems to have been one of the mothers, who was operating the school tuck shop - a sort of snack bar where candy, snacks and sodas are sold.

According to some sources, UFOs had been seen in the skies over Zimbabwe for two days before the incident occurred. Ruwa is about 20 kilometers from Harare, the capitol of Zimbabwe. Ariel School is a private elementary school with students of mixed ethnic heritage.

The children said that they had first seen three objects in the sky. These objects would disappear and then reappear in a different location. The objects moved closer and closer to the ground and finally landed in a brushy area adjacent to the schoolyard. This area had not been fully cleared yet and was off-limits to the students. The object landed, or hovered just above the ground, in an area about 100 meters from the students.

The children said that a small man, about one meter in height, appeared on top of the object. The little man, who was described as having a scrawny neck, long black hair, and huge eyes, walked a short way across the ground toward the students. When he noticed the children, he vanished and then reappeared at the back of the object. The object then took off and vanished.

The smaller children were very frightened and cried for help. They believed that the little man was a demon who would eat them. Black African children have heard legends of tokoloshis, demons who eat children. The children ran to the tuck shop operator, but she did not want to leave the shop unattended and so did not go.

The late Cynthia Hind, known as Africa's foremost UFO investigator, investigated the case the next day. When she was first contacted, she asked the headmaster of the school, Colin Mackie, to have the children draw pictures of what they had seen. When she arrived at the school, he had about 35 drawings for her. The drawings were of very similar objects.

'I swear by every hair on my head and the whole Bible that I am telling the truth.'

The headmaster affirmed that he believed that the students were telling the truth, and one little girl told Cynthia Hind that, 'I swear by every hair on my head and the whole Bible that I am telling the truth.'

Dr. John Mack, the abduction researcher, and his associate Dominique Callimanopulos went to Ruwa and spent two days interviewing and counseling twelve of the children and their parents.

"Those thoughts came from the man - the man's eyes."

Curiously, the older students said that they felt that the creatures communicated with them somehow, sending the message that we humans are destroying our planet, polluting the environment in ways that will have dire consequences.
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According to the old Chinese legend, over one hundred pyramids built in China are evidence of visits paid by aliens to our planet.

At the very beginning of the century, two Australian merchants traveled to the vast plains of Sichuan in the central part of China, where they discovered over one hundred pyramids. The Australians asked the superior of the local monastery about the pyramids, and the superior said that they were “very old.” The first record of the pyramids was written over 5,000 years ago; therefore, it is very likely that they are even older.

The merchants also discovered that the pyramids belonged to the epoch when China was ruled by ancient emperors who believed in the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations. Moreover, the emperors themselves insisted that they were ancestors “of the sons of the sky, who had landed the Earth on iron dragons.” Aliens are alleged to have been the constructors of the pyramids.

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Old 09-15-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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TOP AIRCRAFT DESIGNER REPORTEDLY CONFIRMED ROSWELL

There's alot of comments being made about our aircraft that were supposedly based on alien designs but I have a question about that. An alien space craft would be constructed for space travel in which there is no atmosphere and it's nothing but a vacuum. That's a very different thing from our aircraft that depend on the atmosphere of the earth to support their wings which allows jet engines the ability to lift all of that weight off the ground. Obviously our aircraft can't fly into outer space with the exception of the Space Shuttle but it's still dependent on wings to support it when it reenters the earth's atmosphere. The only vehicles that we've sent into outer space that were designed for that purpose don't resemble flying saucers so I find it hard to believe that we really have alien technology.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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look at this hour long presentation by Bob Dean and you will see why we won't be ready for the truth. The truth as he presents it contradicts every thing we have been told and learned about ourselves and why we are here. He reveals for the first time (around the 26 minute mark) copies of NASA photos that he preserved before they were official destroyed. You will see some interesting things. Bob Dean said the Apollo astronaut's lives and lives of their family members were threatened if they ever told what they saw. This explains their odd behavior at the post moon landing press conference and why Neil Armstrong seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. There is a saying....where there is smoke, there is fire.


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Old 09-15-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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look at this hour long presentation by Bob Dean and you will see why we won't be ready for the truth.
I just watched the whole thing and I did find a few parts of it to be interesting but when you listen to his statements he's telling us that there is nothing to fear and that the aliens aren't hostile so why wouldn't we be able to deal with that fact if it were true? There was no evidence presented whatsoever that would support his claim that human beings are a hybrid race. What does he base this on? He was a good speaker and a couple of the photos were interesting but when he started talking about alien scientists helping the primitive earthlings which was a story that had been related to him by someone he met while having drinks at some function I felt like he went off the deep end. He also stated that he had met aliens at speaking engagements and could sense that they were aliens. That was also a bit much.
If aliens are involved in the activities of mankind and sort of guiding us along then why would that be so shocking that society would fall apart if we knew about it when he states that they're not a threat to us?
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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gsoboi wrote:

I just watched the whole thing and I did find a few parts of it to be interesting but when you listen to his statements he's telling us that there is nothing to fear and that the aliens aren't hostile so why wouldn't we be able to deal with that fact if it were true? There was no evidence presented whatsoever that would support his claim that human beings are a hybrid race. What does he base this on? He was a good speaker and a couple of the photos were interesting but when he started talking about alien scientists helping the primitive earthlings which was a story that had been related to him by someone he met while having drinks at some function I felt like he went off the deep end. He also stated that he had met aliens at speaking engagements and could sense that they were aliens. That was also a bit much.
If aliens are involved in the activities of mankind and sort of guiding us along then why would that be so shocking that society would fall apart if we knew about it when he states that they're not a threat to us?
we have human scientists so why cant another intelligent race have their own scientists? obviously thats the case if they have craft capable of going across the universe. Someone has to develop the science to do those things. but I think the part where we cant handle the truth seems to be the part that talks about us being hybrids. Some may question their religious beliefs and that would put a lot of fear in people because they would then question whether God is real at all and is there a heaven to go to when we die. But then again this has happened before. The Bible speaks of fallen angels having mixed offspring with earth women (Nephilim). Now I do think he was joking about the comment in reference to humans stinking. You cant take one joke, twist it and try to say everything the man is saying is a fabrication.


BTW It has been said that JFK was in the know and that was the reason he was killed was because he was about to spill the beans to the American people. Here is one of his quotes.

"We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehoods in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."

John F. Kennedy
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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BTW It has been said that JFK was in the know and that was the reason he was killed was because he was about to spill the beans to the American people. Here is one of his quotes.

"We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehoods in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."

John F. Kennedy

Do you see those three dots at the end of the word "information"? That means the rest of the text of that sentence has been left out. Do you have a link to the speech?

The quote you've posted appears to be talking about economics. How do you get extraterrestrial aliens out of that? Alien philosophies? That's talking about views in other countries which would've been thought of as "alien" to many Americans.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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He may have been speaking on economics but it seems to be a coded message.

it appears there was a malfunction with the magnets in the Large Hadron Collider which is an experiment that smashes protons to recreate a mini black hole. Some scientists want the project stopped because they believe it will open up black holes that will swallow the earth. Is man playing with fire? What is interesting is that there is a UFO connection. Around the time the collider was suppose to be turned on there have been reports all over Europe and particularly in the vicinity of the collider of strange orange lights in the sky doing strange things. Are the ET watching as we make an amazing discovery or are they trying to prevent us from discovering something dangerous? Some have suggested that the UFOs caused the malfunction. Its interesting to note that UFO sightings spiked during nuclear testing in the US deserts. Anyway the collider switch will now be turned on in November and I guess we'll see if the ETS show up again. Interestingly enough scientists are saying it may take 3 years to see the results.....around lets say December 2012...

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