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that is to say; one needs to have been 'ordinarily resident in the UK for the past 3 years' in order to get the regular fee.
(I've been away 7)
let's say I signed up for an on-line degree course - I would have to pay way more than someone from Poland who just popped over to UK.
is that right?
You're asking whether its fair that you as a non-UK taxpayer (which you have not been one for at least 7 years) should subsidise your education, which you appear to intend to study abroad. i.e. You are asking me to pay for you to get an education whilst you live abroad.
You've endeavored to cast aspersions at the EU system whereby I do pay for Polish students who have perhaps never lived in the UK, and contrasted this with your own situation. However your point neglects that the Polish student must demonstrate that he/she can support themselves (e.g. bank statements) before they will be accepted onto their course, and for the duration of that students education they will be bringing money for their living expenses into the UK whether that be through a student loan from Poland, parental contributions from Poland, by working part-time in the UK or through a combination of the above. You offer no such advantages to the UK economy.
A different way of thinking about this is that the average Government spending per person in England is £8588/pp. To actually pay that much in tax you'd need to have no children and earn ~£35,000. To put that a different way, any single person in England whose lifetime earnings average less than £35,000/year (from the day they were born) is a net drain on the British exchequer. I'm going to guess on the basis of statistical probability that your average lifetime earnings in the UK (from age 0 upwards) have not averaged more than £35,000/year, and therefore you are a net burden to the UK exchequer, and you are asking why you are not permitted to become an even greater burden, because at one time 7 years ago you happened to live here.
Finally, I would probably exhibit a more sympathetic attitude towards you if you haven't shown by the force of your posts to be an odious and frankly racist individual. In this post and others you make regular references to 'blacks running the country', in another you demanded that all Muslims be kicked out of the UK. If those are your attitudes, then you have no place being in this country and if the education setup doesn't work in your favour, then so much the better.
and BTW : the last paragraph of Eoin's post is also absurd
I take the view that if I ignore xenophobia, then to some degree I am complicit in it. From reading through your posts on this forum I'm satisfied that I can justify my remarks. Before I do so I wish to make my reasons clear to you. You spend a great deal of time discussing the issues of the day, you claim to have read Hayek and indeed have started a thread discussing Keynes. These are admirable topics to discuss, and indeed ones I'd ordinarily be enthusiastic to participate in.
However the statements you've made about race, and in particular, disparaging remarks you've made about groups different to your own, made me re-consider whether it's worth my while. While you appear to rail against the 'PC Brigade' in at least one of your posts, it is not born out of a sense of political correctness that I criticise you. I criticise you because many of your posts demonstrate a deep lack of empathy based on your preconceived notions of ethnic/religious background. You've made comments which would be deeply offensive and unjustified (not to mention unjustifiable) to many of the people who will read them.
Without a developed sense of empathy, you are ill-prepared to consider human actions and their consequences, and consequently ill-prepared to understand the ramifications of human interactions necessary to understanding economics or any other sophisticated discipline.
Some examples from the last few weeks:
Quote: "Blacks complaining about image, get real - that's [gangster-rap] the image they want."
Intellectual deficiency displayed: Evidence of your inability to distinguish between billions of black people.
Link: //www.city-data.com/forum/28159351-post64.html
Your own topic entitled:
Quote: "Are Asians racist towards Whites, and if so, why can't we be racist to them?"
Intellectual deficiency displayed: Evidence of ineptitude at directing reciprocity towards the perpetrator(s) of an injustice, determining collective guilt by mere racial affiliation.
Link: //www.city-data.com/forum/28342850-post1.html
Quote: "All Muslims should be kicked out of the UK. it's that simple"
Intellectual deficiency displayed: Evidence of the inability to empathise with over a million British Muslims, and again the inability to distinguish between over a million people based on individual behaviour rather than ethnic-religious group.
Link: //www.city-data.com/forum/27972381-post4.html
Quote: "well he won't shoot you if he is a white Brit like yourself (if that is what you are?) - I think this is how it worked in the old days"
Intellectual deficiency displayed: General
I take the view that if I ignore xenophobia, then to some degree I am complicit in it. From reading through your posts on this forum I'm satisfied that I can justify my remarks. Before I do so I wish to make my reasons clear to you. You spend a great deal of time discussing the issues of the day, you claim to have read Hayek and indeed have started a thread discussing Keynes. These are admirable topics to discuss, and indeed ones I'd ordinarily be enthusiastic to participate in.
However the statements you've made about race, and in particular, disparaging remarks you've made about groups different to your own, made me re-consider whether it's worth my while. While you appear to rail against the 'PC Brigade' in at least one of your posts, it is not born out of a sense of political correctness that I criticise you. I criticise you because many of your posts demonstrate a deep lack of empathy based on your preconceived notions of ethnic/religious background. You've made comments which would be deeply offensive and unjustified (not to mention unjustifiable) to many of the people who will read them.
Without a developed sense of empathy, you are ill-prepared to consider human actions and their consequences, and consequently ill-prepared to understand the ramifications of human interactions necessary to understanding economics or any other sophisticated discipline.
Some examples from the last few weeks:
Quote: "Blacks complaining about image, get real - that's [gangster-rap] the image they want."
Intellectual deficiency displayed: Evidence of your inability to distinguish between billions of black people.
Link: //www.city-data.com/forum/28159351-post64.html
Your own topic entitled:
Quote: "Are Asians racist towards Whites, and if so, why can't we be racist to them?"
Intellectual deficiency displayed: Evidence of ineptitude at directing reciprocity towards the perpetrator(s) of an injustice, determining collective guilt by mere racial affiliation.
Link: //www.city-data.com/forum/28342850-post1.html
Quote: "All Muslims should be kicked out of the UK. it's that simple"
Intellectual deficiency displayed: Evidence of the inability to empathise with over a million British Muslims, and again the inability to distinguish between over a million people based on individual behaviour rather than ethnic-religious group.
Link: //www.city-data.com/forum/27972381-post4.html
Quote: "well he won't shoot you if he is a white Brit like yourself (if that is what you are?) - I think this is how it worked in the old days"
Intellectual deficiency displayed: General
here in the states we have out of state tuition, if you have lived in a state for a set period of time your tuition will be lower than someone from another state, but online classes have changed the way they charge for their use, but what you are saying about your scenario doesnt sound right or fair!!!
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