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Old 11-14-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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Due to the discrimination against Catholics and the Irish in the UK for so long, do you think that to this day, people of Catholic background and Irish ancestry tend to be more likely to be in poverty than people who are of Protestant or British background? Or is there not really any legacy left over economically speaking?
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:21 PM
 
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I think the Irish after a few generations seem to blend into other British populations. Some of the most famous English entertainers have some Irish ancestry.

Kate Bush, David Bowie, Billy Idol, Johnny Lydon (Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols), most of the Smiths (including Morissey), Liam and Noel Gallagher, David Essex, Boy George, 3 of the Beatles etc. The list could go on and on. Anyway it shows the impact in just one area that the Irish have had on Britain.

There have been a couple of British PMs with Irish ancestry Tony Blair and James Callaghan even Maggie Thatcher had some Irish ancestry.

So in answer to your question I don't think now there would be any drawback to being Irish or of Irish ancestry in the UK. There are a large amount of English with Irish ancestry.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:17 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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No - there hasn't been any 'discrimination' against the Irish or Catholics in general in England for a very long time, many English people have Irish ancestory at some point in their family history.
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Due to the discrimination against Catholics and the Irish in the UK for so long, do you think that to this day, people of Catholic background and Irish ancestry tend to be more likely to be in poverty than people who are of Protestant or British background? Or is there not really any legacy left over economically speaking?
There is no evidence of economic, social, educational or political discrimination against Catholics or the Irish in the UK.
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Is it still against the law for the monarch or heir to the throne to be married to someone who is Catholic? I've always heard that but don't know if there's any truth to it. I guess I could google it.

OK I just googled it and found that it's OK for them to marry a Catholic but they can't be one.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:01 AM
 
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Very interesting article about the monarchy being allowed to marry a Catholic. This guy makes an argument against it because when a non Catholic marries a Catholic, they have to swear that they will raise their children in the Catholic faith.

Why It's Absurd For Britain To Allow Catholics To Marry The Monarch - Business Insider
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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Is it still against the law for the monarch or heir to the throne to be married to someone who is Catholic? I've always heard that but don't know if there's any truth to it. I guess I could google it.

OK I just googled it and found that it's OK for them to marry a Catholic but they can't be one.
Which is pretty irrelevant to just about everyone in the UK.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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The question was about English Catholics, but the replies are about the UK. I don't get the impression that the Catholics in Scotland are poorer than the protestants. Catholics in Scotland are descended from Irish or Highlanders.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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The question was about English Catholics, but the replies are about the UK. I don't get the impression that the Catholics in Scotland are poorer than the protestants. Catholics in Scotland are descended from Irish or Highlanders.
There is often a tendency to be rather binary when it comes to looking at religious discrimination. There are more than two religions and there are the non-religious as well.

With regard to Scotland, and according to the 2001 census and the Scottish Social Attitudes Survey, those raised with no religion are the least likely to have middle-class jobs. There is a much bigger gap between the non-religious and religious than there is between catholics and protestants.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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There is often a tendency to be rather binary when it comes to looking at religious discrimination. There are more than two religions and there are the non-religious as well.

With regard to Scotland, and according to the 2001 census and the Scottish Social Attitudes Survey, those raised with no religion are the least likely to have middle-class jobs. There is a much bigger gap between the non-religious and religious than there is between catholics and protestants.
Interesting. My husband is Catholic and Scottish and had a middle class job. But he was the only one in his family of 5 kids that went to uni.

And as far as I've seen, the only time religion matters here is when it comes to sports - like Celtic v Rangers.
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