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Despite its food and weather, Britain is beginning to topple America from its position as the most popular place for overseas students to study, according to a survey published today.
Britain is becoming the world's most popular destination for overseas students - Higher, Education - Independent.co.uk
also ...
While student enrolments from Asian countries such as China, Malaysia and Hong Kong have recently fallen, arrivals from the States continue to rise. Higher Education Statistics Agency figures show the number of Americans in UK higher education has consistently risen over the past six years, from 9,425 in the 2000-01 academic year to 14,755 in 2005-06. The number of Americans applying for full-time undergraduate places via Ucas has climbed by almost 300% over the past 10 years.
Joanne Christie on US residents studying in the UK | Guardian graduates | Guardian Unlimited (http://www.guardian.co.uk/graduate/story/0,,2212416,00.html - broken link)
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02-05-2008, 01:40 PM
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Doesn't surprise me, I'm there for that reason. Alot of us from America see the U.K. as a great choice for many reasons-common language (although it does have its differences) and great for travel opportunities. Also, London is a world-class city that offers anything you could think just about (except for great weather) and is a 2 hour train ride away from Paris or Brussels.
And I disagree with you about the food. I personally like British food but the reality, in London at least, is that you can find Chinese, Indian, American, Thai, etc almost as easily as a pub.
I could see that going to America would have some advantages but if I was from somewhere else I wouldnt want to go to a country with such a backwards law in its drinking age. College students love to drink and since most study abroad students are under 21 they would have to do it illegally in the US. I would hope that wouldnt prevent anyone from visiting but if it was close between the US and somewhere else that might make the difference.
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02-06-2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by decafdave
And I disagree with you about the food. I personally like British food but the reality, in London at least, is that you can find Chinese, Indian, American, Thai, etc almost as easily as a pub.
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Just out of curiosity, what is American food in London like? As for English food, I don't understand why most things seem to be called 'pudding', and most of these 'puddings' sound gross.
I have thought about doing grad school in the UK, but not too sure as of yet.
What is the process for admittance like. Anything similar to the US?
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02-06-2008, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Luv
Just out of curiosity, what is American food in London like? As for English food, I don't understand why most things seem to be called 'pudding', and most of these 'puddings' sound gross.
I have thought about doing grad school in the UK, but not too sure as of yet.
What is the process for admittance like. Anything similar to the US?
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American fast-food food in the UK is exactly the same as here - if you mean Mcdonalds, Wendys etc. Pizza Hut is MUCH better in the UK tho! You won't find a good chicken-fried steak there, but a decent Tex-Mex is possible and there are plenty of cheap and OK American-style burger places, but why try and find American food in another country....?
London is a top foodie destination with some of the best top restaurants in the world, and one of the biggest melting-pots of cuisines from around the globe. As a student you'll be eating cheap, authentic and delicious Indian, Ethiopian, Moroccan, Italian.... plus I hope some English pie, mash and gravy!  And British pub food is great.
As for puddings, the Brits call all dessert 'pudding'. Real pudding is usually a baked sweet dish (like a sponge cake) with fruit and/or a sauce, served hot with custard or ice cream. Can be YUMMMMY - look up 'Sticky Toffee Pudding'. But most people don't eat that kind of thing everyday, it's too heavy. They also eat apple pie, friut crumble and cobbler - nothing weird!
However, I know nothing of the student admission system, sorry 
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02-06-2008, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by southdown
American fast-food food in the UK is exactly the same as here - if you mean Mcdonalds, Wendys etc. Pizza Hut is MUCH better in the UK tho! You won't find a good chicken-fried steak there, but a decent Tex-Mex is possible and there are plenty of cheap and OK American-style burger places, but why try and find American food in another country....?
London is a top foodie destination with some of the best top restaurants in the world, and one of the biggest melting-pots of cuisines from around the globe. As a student you'll be eating cheap, authentic and delicious Indian, Ethiopian, Moroccan, Italian.... plus I hope some English pie, mash and gravy!  And British pub food is great.
As for puddings, the Brits call all dessert 'pudding'. Real pudding is usually a baked sweet dish (like a sponge cake) with fruit and/or a sauce, served hot with custard or ice cream. Can be YUMMMMY - look up 'Sticky Toffee Pudding'. But most people don't eat that kind of thing everyday, it's too heavy. They also eat apple pie, friut crumble and cobbler - nothing weird!
However, I know nothing of the student admission system, sorry 
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Oh yes, London is one of the top food destinations in the world right now. My only regret is that my budget won't allow me to eat out more than 3 or 4 meals a week.
I agree, I sure didnt come all the way to eat American food but occasionally, I admit, I do indulge myself. Oh, and there's american food besides fast food-they can be a bit more pricey than what you'll find in the states but there are chains like TGI Fridays, as well as steak houses. Hmm..I even passed by an "American style Italian food" restaurant! Why on earth would anyone eat there when there is authentic italian?!
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02-06-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Luv
Just out of curiosity, what is American food in London like? As for English food, I don't understand why most things seem to be called 'pudding', and most of these 'puddings' sound gross.
I have thought about doing grad school in the UK, but not too sure as of yet.
What is the process for admittance like. Anything similar to the US?
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I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the grad school admittance as I'm an undergrad. I know my school stateside does offer direct exchange programs to plenty of places but it didnt to London so I used a 3rd party provider: Academic Studies Abroad. Study Abroad Programs - Academic Studies Abroad I'm not sure if they work with Grad students though, but because I went thru them I didnt have to worry about being admitted into the British school.
I'll tell you though its a great city to be a student in. Most of the museums and such are free, and another great pastime-wandering the streets and people-watching are also free.
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02-06-2008, 10:45 AM
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Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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Originally Posted by southdown
American fast-food food in the UK is exactly the same as here - if you mean Mcdonalds, Wendys etc. Pizza Hut is MUCH better in the UK tho! You won't find a good chicken-fried steak there, but a decent Tex-Mex is possible and there are plenty of cheap and OK American-style burger places, but why try and find American food in another country....?
London is a top foodie destination with some of the best top restaurants in the world, and one of the biggest melting-pots of cuisines from around the globe. As a student you'll be eating cheap, authentic and delicious Indian, Ethiopian, Moroccan, Italian.... plus I hope some English pie, mash and gravy!  And British pub food is great.
As for puddings, the Brits call all dessert 'pudding'. Real pudding is usually a baked sweet dish (like a sponge cake) with fruit and/or a sauce, served hot with custard or ice cream. Can be YUMMMMY - look up 'Sticky Toffee Pudding'. But most people don't eat that kind of thing everyday, it's too heavy. They also eat apple pie, friut crumble and cobbler - nothing weird!
However, I know nothing of the student admission system, sorry 
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I avoid all American fast food and chain restaurants while in Europe, but I was just curious as it seems that 'American food' seems to equate to nothing more then hamburgers, Pizza Hut and fried chicken. I have yet to see an 'American' restaurant overseas that served meat loaf with ketchup, mashed potatoes with gravy, side of peas and Wonder Bread with a pat of butter.
My GF is British and her cook book for pudding is nothing sweet! Quiet the contrary as it all seems to be meat based. She tells me that the British will call anything a 'pudding'.
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02-06-2008, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Luv
I avoid all American fast food and chain restaurants while in Europe, but I was just curious as it seems that 'American food' seems to equate to nothing more then hamburgers, Pizza Hut and fried chicken. I have yet to see an 'American' restaurant overseas that served meat loaf with ketchup, mashed potatoes with gravy, side of peas and Wonder Bread with a pat of butter.
My GF is British and her cook book for pudding is nothing sweet! Quiet the contrary as it all seems to be meat based. She tells me that the British will call anything a 'pudding'.
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To be honest, the American food you mention is probably seen as home-cooking, not a distinct cuisine. I would imagine if you asked 100 people outside of the USA to name an American dish, sadly 99 would say burgers, pizza, fried chicken etc - they just never see anything else that stands out as uniquely American.
And I have never heard of pudding in UK cooking to mean savoury, except for Yorkshire pudding - which is plain baked batter, and steak and kidney pudding - meat cooked in suet pastry. All the others are sweet!! 
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02-06-2008, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Luv
I avoid all American fast food and chain restaurants while in Europe, but I was just curious as it seems that 'American food' seems to equate to nothing more then hamburgers, Pizza Hut and fried chicken. I have yet to see an 'American' restaurant overseas that served meat loaf with ketchup, mashed potatoes with gravy, side of peas and Wonder Bread with a pat of butter.
My GF is British and her cook book for pudding is nothing sweet! Quiet the contrary as it all seems to be meat based. She tells me that the British will call anything a 'pudding'.
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Apart from the 2 exceptions Southdown has pointed out, which do tend to be called puddings, there are a lot of meat-based pies. Sometimes if you get them in pubs and they come with flaky pastry they're often just a flaky lid floating over a scalding hot pot of meat sauce! Steak and kidney pie/pudding is nice though, but I prefer it with shortcrust pastry.
Don't confuse that with mince pies though - they're all fruit and people have them at Christmas.
But no - pudding is certainly a generic term for dessert, although most people call it dessert these days in my experience.
I'm afraid my impression of American food is lots of steak or ribs and stuff like that. I've not been, so I'm well-infused with the stereotypes that we're presented with.
What's Wonder Bread? A friend here told me American bread is sweeter than our bread but I don't know if that's all true or just true of whatever bread she came across.
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02-06-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Luv
I avoid all American fast food and chain restaurants while in Europe, but I was just curious as it seems that 'American food' seems to equate to nothing more then hamburgers, Pizza Hut and fried chicken. I have yet to see an 'American' restaurant overseas that served meat loaf with ketchup, mashed potatoes with gravy, side of peas and Wonder Bread with a pat of butter.
My GF is British and her cook book for pudding is nothing sweet! Quiet the contrary as it all seems to be meat based. She tells me that the British will call anything a 'pudding'.
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You mean the US doesn`t have `Spotted Dick`?? That`s a travesty!! 
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