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Old 08-21-2016, 04:30 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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If you want to avoid creationists in the UK you should be generally fine, as long as you stay away from:

1. The undereducated, who have had limited exposure to secular education.
2. The very well educated, some of whom have idiosyncratic knowledge regarding criticism of the neodarwinian synthesis.

Hang around your typical Joe/Jane with an undergrad degree at an accredited university, and you will likely be in compatible company.
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Old 08-22-2016, 05:33 AM
 
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Neither country is going to give you a permanent visa if you have need of social benefits. If you can not support yourself 100%, you will not get that visa.

The UK has tax payer supported medical. I've lived in the UK. The charge to go and see a doctor or to fill a prescription is small, but waiting lists are very long and you might never get to see the doctor that you need. Medical in the USA is quite good and extremely expensive. If you don't have good medical insurance, you might not get medical care you need because you won't be able to pay for it. The sort of job that imports labor and goes to the trouble of obtaining work visas for their employees is very likely to have medical insurance for their employees. You can not obtain a work visa yourself. You must have a job and that job has to sponsor you for the visa.

I suggest that you look at some of the countries where it is much easier to obtain a visa. All you want is out of Turkey, so take a look at some of the South American countries. It is a lot cheaper to live and it is much easier to get a resident's visa.
Thanks for your comment. Maybe you might be right about that but neither portuguese nor spanish I can't speak. I am improving my English also I am trying to learn German. Actually learning a new language won't be problem for me but I think Anglosphere countries more proper for me. (Fredom, different opinions, oppurtunities vs..)

There are so much countries out there with official language is English. USA, England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, Canada, Malta, New Zealand...

And can computer technician find a sponsor company to get work visa ? I am talking for USA.

Thanks.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I think it highly unlikely that you could find a sponsor. Only high level specialists can find sponsors, only when they can prove that there is no one else who could do the job. They are required to submit proof that they have looked for someone to hire but couldn't find anyone. It's usually doctors or high level researchers.

I think your best bet would be that diversity lottery that someone mentioned earlier.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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I think it highly unlikely that you could find a sponsor. Only high level specialists can find sponsors, only when they can prove that there is no one else who could do the job. They are required to submit proof that they have looked for someone to hire but couldn't find anyone. It's usually doctors or high level researchers.

I think your best bet would be that diversity lottery that someone mentioned earlier.
Yes, diversity lottery and marriage. There is no other way out for me. I'll apply diversity lottery 2-3 years.
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Chicago area - very open to different religions, atheism, agnostics... Evolution is taught in the public schools. The University of Chicago celebrates Darwin with annual events. Parents who want their children to learn creationism either homeschool or enroll in private religious schools.

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Old 08-22-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Chicago area - very open to different religions, atheism, agnostics... Evolution is taught in the public schools. The University of Chicago celebrates Darwin with annual events. Parents who want their children to learn creationism either homeschool or enroll in private religious schools.
Thank you very much for the your comment. Good to hear that. Illinois state seems very quality, especially I like Chicago. I hope Chicago has good job oppurtunites, cheap cost of living for the min. wage workers because I have to live that way for a while.. Then I can work as a computer technician and I can earn $13-14 per hour.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Thanks for your comment. Maybe you might be right about that but neither portuguese nor spanish I can't speak. I am improving my English also I am trying to learn German. Actually learning a new language won't be problem for me but I think Anglosphere countries more proper for me. (Fredom, different opinions, oppurtunities vs..)

There are so much countries out there with official language is English. USA, England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, Canada, Malta, New Zealand...

And can computer technician find a sponsor company to get work visa ? I am talking for USA.

Thanks.
To be honest, no I don't think a company can or would sponsor you for a work visa in the US for being a Computer Technician - my Son became a computer technician and got various certifications when he was just a teenager (you can attend college to study this, but it's just knowing the information on the testing - he went to technical school while also in High School and picked it up really fast, I think to get in the UK or US you would would probably have to have some skills and a bigger degree - you don't even need a degree to be a technician...just certifications.

From what I have heard it's really hard to immigrate to the US or the UK.
And I live in Kentucky, and for all the people from the US who think the South does not teach evolution is schools, you are so wrong, it's taught in public schools here just like every where else! (You would probably not like this area of the US though, it can be hot and sunny for quite a few months of the year.)
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Thank you very much for the your comment. Good to hear that. Illinois state seems very quality, especially I like Chicago. I hope Chicago has good job oppurtunites, cheap cost of living for the min. wage workers because I have to live that way for a while.. Then I can work as a computer technician and I can earn $13-14 per hour.
You can earn more money than that as a computer technician, my son was making $16 an hour as a teenager. He still very occasionally does contracted work as a technician for $18 hourly I think it is now. And he just has a couple current certifications. The more you have the more you make. The really big one I think he said is the Microsoft Certification, you can make really good money especially with that one....he doesn't have trouble finding work with it, but there is no job shortage in this field.

And my Son is a college student, who still lives at home and commutes to school - so he doesn't have to support himself yet. Because while I think that may sound like a lot of money to you, when you filter in cost of living costs you would probably be struggling somewhat to get by, unless you worked more than one job or your future wife has a decent income.

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Old 08-25-2016, 04:37 AM
 
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@Crazee Cat Lady ,

Thank you for your precious comment.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:36 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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....... my son was making $16 an hour as a teenager. He still very occasionally does contracted work as a technician for $18 hourly .......
If businesses can high teenagers, it is not a job that requires rare skills. High school kids here can do that job. No business is going to go to the expense of importing labor when they can hire it done locally for $18 an hour. Businesses only pay the high expense and do the annoying government paperwork to import labor when they can't find anyone local with the job skills to do the job.
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