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Old 04-16-2008, 08:28 AM
 
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If anyone is really interested they should get hold of the book
'The MotherTongue' (English and how it got that way) by Bill Bryson.
It is absolutely facsinating, explains the evolution of the English language, and there is even a chapter 'Old World New World' which explains the path the language has taken in America since the Pilgrims landed!
Many words and phrases used in the South actually derive from Olde English e.g. 'Ye All' which have long died out in Britain itself!!
This book is very enjoyable,not a heavy read, and is most enlightening!
Interesting post Salopian.

I remembered that i started a thread (11-18-2007) in the History Forum titked '' How'd we lose are English accent'' . Anyway there were 43 responses to it and i do racall that some posters said we never lost it but that the Brits had changed??

Well that's out of my league as to who lost what although i still believe the Brits today speak simular to the 1700's Brits in America and that we Americano's (little spanish there) have changed with all the in migrations and what not.

City Data thread for those interested.
//www.city-data.com/forum/histo...r-english.html
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:24 AM
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Location: Lincoln, UK
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I remembered that i started a thread (11-18-2007) in the History Forum titked '' How'd we lose are English accent'' . Anyway there were 43 responses to it and i do racall that some posters said we never lost it but that the Brits had changed??
OK I know I'm dragging this off-topic a bit, but you guys have got to have a look at this website, I'm sitting here just wetting myself laughing.
Signs/Posters | Index (broken link)

I suppose it's kind of on topic... it's just about people struggling with English full stop (or period, if you like )!
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Thread Revival here. Cop, as in policeman/woman, derives from "Constable on Patrol." You're welcome!
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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Thread Revival here. Cop, as in policeman/woman, derives from "Constable on Patrol." You're welcome!
That sounds liek a retronym and therefore bogus.

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Old 03-01-2015, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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That sounds liek a retronym and therefore bogus.
Snopes says it's bogus.

snopes.com: Cop: Constable on Patrol?
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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Well, I followed the advice of some nice people here whom I asked about ways for an American to experience British cultural humor (oops, humour) and I subscribed to and have been receiving "Private Eye" for nearly a month, and frankly I think I'm getting about 20% of the content on a good day.

Questions:

1. What does it mean when "bloody hell" is spelled "bleddy hell"?

2. What is a "busker"?

3. Please translate: "Why Patricia Hewitt has turned into Norman Tebbit ."

4. What, after all, does "pip pip" actually mean?

Thanks awfully.

--- Yr Ameddican cousin, Yeledaf
Who say's "pip pip"?
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Who say's "pip pip"?
I thought the same exactly who says toodle pip or whatever in this day and age... at first I thought it mean P.I.P as in Personal Indepence Payment. jeez he better not come to Glasgow or hes snookered..hahaha
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Old 03-18-2015, 12:31 AM
 
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I travel quite a bit to the UK and watch a lot of British TV and cinema while home in the US, so I'm used to regional accents. Today, the main peculiarity of speech that still jumps out at me (in some regions of England anyway) is the insertion of an "r" linking sound between a word that ends in a vowel and a word that starts with a vowel. When I first went to London, this pronunciation startled me. I'd hear it in the streets and in the speech of news presenters. I was baffled by why news presenters were saying "Obamar" instead of Obama, for example. Then I worked out the pattern:

It's Obama, China, India, and so on, if the next word begins with a consonant. But if the next word begins with a vowel, it's changed to "Chinar and..." or "Obamar and..." It drove me nuts because I could see no purpose. When I got home, I looked it up, and found it was a well-known phenomenon called the "intrusive r."

That's the Idear: Intrusive 'R' | Dialect Blog

So that's why people in London, for example, say "law court" as expected, but pronounce "lawr and order" with the intrusive r to link the "a" of "law" and the "a" of "and." I've learned that this pronunciation used to be disapproved of, generations ago, but now almost everyone in the region uses the intrusive r and thinks nothing of it. It still sounds jarring to my ear.

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Old 03-18-2015, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Interesting and how some slang words are misinterpreted... I just mentioned a word for a slack full back jacket we wore in the 70s but and old style from the forties, which it seems in the US is offensive.. so I looked it up. and it has other meanings too... so now I know not to use it.. although it means nothing here in the UK except for this jacket name... then I told someone their photo was a cracker in a PM meaning really cool... and they were offended...so we struggle from this end too hahaha.
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Old 03-18-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Interesting and how some slang words are misinterpreted... I just mentioned a word for a slack full back jacket we wore in the 70s but and old style from the forties, which it seems in the US is offensive.. so I looked it up. and it has other meanings too... so now I know not to use it.. although it means nothing here in the UK except for this jacket name... then I told someone their photo was a cracker in a PM meaning really cool... and they were offended...so we struggle from this end too hahaha.
I'm dying to know what that word is.
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