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Old 05-24-2022, 05:09 AM
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It's time to stop the nonsense about the Special Relationship, with only 19% of British people believing such a relationship exits, as opposed to 81% who don't believe in a Special Relationship.

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Originally Posted by YouGov (2021)

American diplomats are generally advised to employ the term ‘Special Relationship’ to describe US-UK relations, with the traditional view being that Britons feel slighted if the term isn’t used.

But British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is said to dislike it, finding it ‘needy’ - he says he would call the connection an ‘indestructible relationship’ instead.

Nevertheless, President Joe Biden has used the phrase ‘Special Relationship’ more than once since arriving in Cornwall, England for the G7 – perhaps reflecting the fact that four in ten Americans (40%) say that the UK and the US do have a particular bond and a ‘special relationship’.

This is, however, twice as many as the 19% of Britons who say the same.

Britons are more likely to regard the two countries as close allies, but that the relationship between the two is not necessarily ‘special’ - 48% say this, compared to 32% of Americans.

A further 20% of Britons don’t even think the countries are that close anymore, an opinion with which just 8% of Americans agree.

Americans are twice as likely as Britons to believe the US and UK share a ‘Special Relationship’ - YouGov

 
Old 05-30-2022, 04:55 PM
 
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Well, look at all the nominees for president over the past 30 years.
That should tell you how smart the average US voter is, never mind the 50% who don’t even bother.
Pretty sad state of affairs, IMO.
 
Old 05-30-2022, 08:03 PM
 
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It's time to stop the nonsense about the Special Relationship, with only 19% of British people believing such a relationship exits, as opposed to 81% who don't believe in a Special Relationship.
Tell that to the soldiers at Omaha Beach! Hint, June 4, 1944 was not a sunny, 30° beach day.
 
Old 05-30-2022, 11:26 PM
 
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Tell that to the soldiers at Omaha Beach! Hint, June 4, 1944 was not a sunny, 30° beach day.
D-Day was June 6
 
Old 05-31-2022, 02:38 AM
 
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the "special relationship" only worked in one direction.
 
Old 05-31-2022, 03:10 AM
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the "special relationship" only worked in one direction.


Well said Paul.

Whilst in terms of D-Day there were more British and Canadian soldiers there that Americans, with most equipment being supplied by the British, and most of the naval and air cover supplied by the Royal Navy and RAF. So it was a joint operation rather than a purely American one.
 
Old 05-31-2022, 05:41 AM
 
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the "special relationship" only worked in one direction.
EXACTLY!

In a way post #3 is a fine example of this! It's certainly a good example of the general attitude of many of 'them' over there
 
Old 05-31-2022, 07:32 AM
 
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D-Day was June 6
Oops.
 
Old 05-31-2022, 10:14 AM
 
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I know I have heard the term over the years but frankly never thought much about it. Is this a big issue for people?
 
Old 05-31-2022, 02:04 PM
 
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Well said Paul.

Whilst in terms of D-Day there were more British and Canadian soldiers there that Americans, with most equipment being supplied by the British, and most of the naval and air cover supplied by the Royal Navy and RAF. So it was a joint operation rather than a purely American one.

True what you say most likely but don't forget that the US was also fighting a major war in the Pacific with a large navy and needing a huge army of Marines, Army and Air Force. There was a high attrition rate in manpower over having to fight a determined enemy on one island after another. The demand for combat replacements tanks, artillery, ships and aircraft was also in competition for the same needed for the European Theater of Operations. That the US could do all this as well as help supply Russia also was no small miracle.
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