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01-06-2009, 07:05 AM
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Location: Michigan
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baby boy died just minutes after his birth because the hospital did not have an anesthetist available for an emergency Caesarean section, The Sunday Mirror reported.
Clare Russell of Madeley, Telford in England, went into labor 10 weeks early and arrived at Royal Shrewsbury Hospital in Shrewsbury, England, in the middle of the night.
FOXNews.com - Baby Dies Because Hospital Had No One to Do C-Section - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News |
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01-06-2009, 09:00 AM
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Location: North carolina
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Pathetic~~
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01-06-2009, 09:10 AM
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Location: Strathclyde & Málaga
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Seems to be a big problem in England with shortages in midwifery staff. I know this because i am going to university to be an adult nurse and i know how bad things are getting but still there is no excuse for this to happen.
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01-06-2009, 01:39 PM
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Location: Portsmouth
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Originally Posted by Scotslass
Seems to be a big problem in England with shortages in midwifery staff. I know this because i am going to university to be an adult nurse and i know how bad things are getting but still there is no excuse for this to happen.
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Just another example of the effects of Government cuts in the NHS  |
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01-06-2009, 03:03 PM
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Location: Over the Rainbow...
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How sad. My neighbor who is also a very good friend is originally from the Liverpool area. She and her husband are planning on moving back there as soon as their home sells. She continuously tells me how much better the health system is in England opposed to the U.S. I have always heard from good sources that the health system in the UK is only good if you are rich. Obviously their health system is greatly lacking. But then it seems to be happening all over. |
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01-06-2009, 04:20 PM
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Location: Fishers, IN
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Originally Posted by Alaskapat528
I have always heard from good sources that the health system in the UK is only good if you are rich.
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It can be argued that the same is true here in the U.S. because, unless you're wealthy, the system can bankrupt you. |
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01-06-2009, 04:53 PM
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Location: South Bay Native
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Originally Posted by grmasterb
It can be argued that the same is true here in the U.S. because, unless you're wealthy, the system can bankrupt you.
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Actually, here in the US, even the poor are guaranteed health care. Probably not the same care someone with insurance would receive, but even women who sneak over the border to deliver a baby on US soil without a stitch of insurance or documents for that matter, get to deliver babies in our hospitals without fear of the staff not being trained properly in delivery procedures. I haven't heard that a baby died because no one was available to do a C-section at any hospital in the U.S.
Your point of being able to go bankrupt due to health care expenses is entirely true - but that has nothing to do with the lady in the UK whose baby died because they couldn't find anyone to deliver her baby. |
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01-06-2009, 05:03 PM
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Location: Strathclyde & Málaga
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Originally Posted by DontH8Me
Actually, here in the US, even the poor are guaranteed health care. Probably not the same care someone with insurance would receive, but even women who sneak over the border to deliver a baby on US soil without a stitch of insurance or documents for that matter, get to deliver babies in our hospitals without fear of the staff not being trained properly in delivery procedures. I haven't heard that a baby died because no one was available to do a C-section at any hospital in the U.S.
Your point of being able to go bankrupt due to health care expenses is entirely true - but that has nothing to do with the lady in the UK whose baby died because they couldn't find anyone to deliver her baby.
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Its not the fact that not everyone is entitled to heathcare, that is untrue. Every citizen even my American fiance is entitled to free healthcare and he isn't a British citizen. The fact of the matter is there is a dire shortage in health care professionals both in Scotland and England its becoming an epidemic.
The system is being bled by foreigners too and abused by alcoholics, obese people or junkies, people that we the UK help and provide asylum for, so for giving so much to these people we're losing out and suffering because of it. You just have to look at how much it costs, how much is wasted on wasters. Thanks to socialism.
Not to mention the cuts in funding as well as the gradual privatisation of certain parts of the NHS gradually it will become like the US system which isn't what we need in a heavily socialist country right now.
Also may I point out that my mother has had cancer twice and each time she was treated quickly and with great care and professionalism so i cannot complain that way.
We're soon to get free prescriptions in Scotland too and I can go and see my doctor without having to pay any kind of fee.
Furthermore it comes down to which area you live in. There are certain "states" which have a poorer health service than others, its pot luck. For example where I live has good standards of care and short waiting lists compared to the next county, its just your luck as i said previously.
In my opinion the NHS needs a major shakeup, stuff like this can't keep happening. Maybe thats why they're giving incentives to get people back into education to become qualified nurses/midwives. I am one of them and I haven't looked back since. |
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01-09-2009, 09:21 PM
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Location: The Shires
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John -- how many people DIED in the US last year due to no insurance or lack of insurance? I'd take the NHS over the US "for-profit" system any day, trust me on that.
Human life is more valuable than greedy $$$$.
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01-10-2009, 08:50 PM
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As both of us live in glass houses as far as health care is concerned, neither the UK or the USA should be throwing stones. The OP has pinpointed a terrible tragedy caused by a mistake in a cost-cutting policy which the hospital concerned had admitted to.
Whether their shared interest is cost-cutting or profit-making, it is clear that health and money make poor bedfellows.  |
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