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So only 4 cities out of 50 states are not car-dependent?
That isn't what I said.
The cities I mentioned are ones where 1) I have been and 2) have excellent public transportation. There may well be others where I have not been that are comparable to European cities.
A great many US cities have public transportation. For example, LA has bus, train and subway. Phoenix has just invested heavily in light rail (tram) and also has bus. Philadelphia has trains, bus and a subway, etc, etc.. But do they compare to European cities?
The cities I mentioned are ones where 1) I have been and 2) have excellent public transportation. There may well be others where I have not been that are comparable to European cities.
A great many US cities have public transportation. For example, LA has bus, train and subway. Phoenix has just invested heavily in light rail (tram) and also has bus. Philadelphia has trains, bus and a subway, etc, etc.. But do they compare to European cities?
I think maybe Philadelphia but not Los Angeles or Phoenix.
I think maybe Philadelphia but not Los Angeles or Phoenix.
Yes, I agree with you in terms of a comparison with European cities.
However, just because their public transportation infrastructure is not as developed as most European cities does not mean that they are devoid of public transport which was the point I was trying to make to Edu983.
Only New York City can match what is found in larger European cities. Places like Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, Washington DC, Portland, and Philadelphia are decent enough to get around in without a car, but they are certainly behind large European cities. Other US cities beyond these have transit, but they are rather pathetic compared to Europe's cities.
Only New York City can match what is found in larger European cities. Places like Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, Washington DC, Portland, and Philadelphia are decent enough to get around in without a car, but they are certainly behind large European cities. Other US cities beyond these have transit, but they are rather pathetic compared to Europe's cities.
Well, I can only speak for the cities I have been to. I have used the transit systems of these cities in Europe:
Madrid
Barcelona
Prague
Vienna
Munich
Nuremberg
I do know that comparable transit to these can be found in just about all large cities in Europe. London, Paris, Berlin and other top tier cities of course have top-notch transit systems. I live in Chicago without a car, so I know what it's like from the perspective of someone who lives in one of the best American cities for transit. Chicago's system is not up to par with the cities I have visited in Europe, except for maybe Nuremberg which is much smaller than Chicago. Actually most of those are smaller than Chicago, but trump it anyway.
If you want to include Canada, Montreal and Toronto have pretty good transit systems. Still not up to much of Europe's or NYC standards, but really good for North American.
Last edited by 5Lakes; 06-09-2010 at 03:35 PM..
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