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Old 03-17-2013, 07:01 AM
 
Location: NYC
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"Freeways are awesome, end of story"??

No, it is not the end of story. The urban areas which host these highways may suffer greatly for your pleasure, economically and otherwise. It's only the end of the story if you don't care about urban residents. Looking at it so simplistically is a disservice.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:26 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Good post, I hate the density of those large cities like Chicago and NYC, I prefer the density you see out in Suburbia but the homes are way too big. I'm living in the perfect area right now, small cozy homes but very low dense compared to out east.

You can google map the area. search "Eastern Heights Luthern Church, Ruth street, St Paul, MN"
And from an urban planning standpoint, that's one of the things I dislike about American cities. While your view is pleasant looking, it's not a landscape likely to be full of pedestrians or creating a "bustling city" feel. Manhattan is extreme, but blocks of attached homes with maybe some detached ones mixed in (or something similar) with non-residential buildings fronting the street would be my preference. All but a handful of American cities are too spread out, even near the city center (the suburbs I don't care about as much, but I'd expect metros to have a dense, pedestrian-oriented section that's a sizeable (1/3 at least) fraction of the metro). And I do find narrow roads cozier, though obviously it'd be impractical for all roads to be narrow, but the side roads can be. Too many older American cities, especially the smaller ones, have rather dead city centers with the commercial focus moved to the periphery.

At least here, I do like the feel and architecture of older cities, at least the healthier ones, their history and they do a good job of mixing in greenery.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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The skyscrapers
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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New Orleans away from Bourbon St.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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Lol yea, Minneapolis is probably one of the best cities for bicycling but the weather is usually very hot or very cold.

I don't know what it is about these sunny states. The weather is so sunny and mild in states like CA and FL yet people prefer driving around in their big cars and trucks all year round, with heavily tinted windows to make sure they don't get any sun on them. And they want to stay indoors in their suburban houses all day long. They're like vampires or something. There's no walking or biking culture whatsoever. If you ask a Californian about bikesharing they'll look at you like you're from outer space because it doesn't exist there. But in colder states like Colorado, Minnesota, Oregon, and the Northeast the pedestrian and cycling culture seem to be much more prominent and more mainstream. Go figure.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I don't know what it is about these sunny states. The weather is so sunny and mild in states like CA and FL yet people prefer driving around in their big cars and trucks all year round, with heavily tinted windows to make sure they don't get any sun on them. And they want to stay indoors in their suburban houses all day long. They're like vampires or something. There's no walking or biking culture whatsoever. If you ask a Californian about bikesharing they'll look at you like you're from outer space because it doesn't exist there. But in colder states like Colorado, Minnesota, Oregon, and the Northeast the pedestrian and cycling culture seem to be much more prominent and more mainstream. Go figure.
What about SF, Venice Beach?
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Bike culture is pretty well alive in both San Francisco and LA. You'll see a lot more people riding bikes in San Francisco or LA than in NYC.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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What about SF, Venice Beach?
there's no bikesharing in SF or LA. city officials love paying lip service but they have yet to implement anything. it takes them 10 to 20 years to install just a single block of bike lane on a street if you're lucky. they say there's no money for it and yet they will gladly spend 50 billion dollars on 40 miles of brand new interstate highways at the drop of a hat. when it comes to highways there's no red tape no waiting or nothing. thanks to pressure from the well-funded industry highway lobby they'll fast track that highway proposal quicker than you can say campaign contribution.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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Bike culture is pretty well alive in both San Francisco and LA. You'll see a lot more people riding bikes in San Francisco or LA than in NYC.
there's some biking culture in but SF but SF is not California. the biking in LA is just recreational biking at the beach in Venice Beach on the weekends that's not a biking culture.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Monmouth County, NJ & Staten Island, NY
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Good post, I hate the density of those large cities like Chicago and NYC, I prefer the density you see out in Suburbia but the homes are way too big. I'm living in the perfect area right now, small cozy homes but very low dense compared to out east.

You can google map the area. search "Eastern Heights Luthern Church, Ruth street, St Paul, MN"
Very nice neighborhood, very suburban. I prefer bigger homes and land, but I could definitely see myself living somewhere like that, sort of reminds me of my friend's neighborhood in Valley Stream, Long Island.
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