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04-22-2016, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by darkeconomist
The main thrust of the piece is that, despite being architecturally modern, places like Apple's new campus here in Cupertino are not fundamentally different from the suburban campuses that preceded them; each still seeks to be a place people drive to (or, in the SFBA, ride a corporate bus to), stay within the bounds of all day, then do the reverse commute home at the end of the day.
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Sure, that's called a "workplace".
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But it's, again, not city vs. suburb; the GM headquarters, for example, could be every bit as much a fortress as a suburban office campus.
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Sure, and while I usually call it a battleship, the enormous masonry Manhattan building I work in (built circa 1930) might also be described as "fortresslike". But the article talks about suburbia quite often (including the headlines), refers negatively to the campuses as "isolated, anti-urban", refers to "suburban pastoral settings", complains about parking lots and solo commutes... it's hard to see how it isn't criticizing the suburban placement. |
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04-22-2016, 07:28 PM
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No comment on you, my friend. Stephen Hawking, yeah. Do you think he could walk or take a bus to work, either? No, he'd have to be driven.
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Actually he could. Due to ADA public transportation agencies must purchase busses and trains that are ada compliant. His problem would be older stations that have not been updated and bad weather. As well as sidewalks.
Also there is an bad assumtion that an suburban office campus must lack transit. Some provide shuttle bussses to commuter stations and some have bus stops nearby. |
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04-22-2016, 07:35 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by chirack
Actually he could. Due to ADA public transportation agencies must purchase busses and trains that are ada compliant. His problem would be older stations that have not been updated and bad weather. As well as sidewalks.
Also there is an bad assumtion that an suburban office campus must lack transit. Some provide shuttle bussses to commuter stations and some have bus stops nearby.
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Thanks for that first.
As for the second paragraph, the office parks in Denver metro (DTC, Interlocken in Broomfield, Denver West in Golden, etc) are serviced by the transit district. |
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04-22-2016, 07:57 PM
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Just because someone can drive doesn't mean they want to drive. Some people prefer a carfree lifestyle. |
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04-22-2016, 08:22 PM
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Just because someone can drive doesn't mean they want to drive. Some people prefer a carfree lifestyle.
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Unless they're independently wealthy, they have to work. |
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04-22-2016, 09:13 PM
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Unless they're independently wealthy, they have to work.
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Yes, and there are jobs in areas like dense cities where one doesn't need a car to commute. And many companies are moving downtown to accommodate those people who want that lifestyle. You really need to get out more. Not everyone lives like you do. |
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04-22-2016, 09:18 PM
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Yes, and there are jobs in areas like dense cities where one doesn't need a car to commute. And many companies are moving downtown to accommodate those people who want that lifestyle. You really need to get out more. Not everyone lives like you do.
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No, they move downtown because there is some advantage beyond catering to their employee's lifestyle chioces. Suburbs have an appeal also. |
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04-22-2016, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sstsunami55
Yes, and there are jobs in areas like dense cities where one doesn't need a car to commute. And many companies are moving downtown to accommodate those people who want that lifestyle. You really need to get out more. Not everyone lives like you do.
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You have no idea how I live. |
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04-22-2016, 09:34 PM
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You have no idea how I live.
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You're a nurse who lives in a suburban neighborhood not far from Denver. You drive to work and enjoy the suburban lifestyle. In your spare time you like to grind an ax in the basement while looking at pictures of 30 year olds enjoying urban life, commuting to work on their bikes. Your favorite color is purple and you have toast and tea every morning. |
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04-22-2016, 10:12 PM
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Very "interesting", as they say in Minnesota.
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