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Looking for a book which explains why the grid starts at 14th and not 1st street, why the Lexington Avenue subway goes above ground after 96th street.
Read the greatest grid, did not really answer.
The Lexington Ave line does not go above ground until after it's in The Bronx
Yeah. You’re thinking of the 1 train (Broadway-Seventh Avenue line) that goes elevated in Manhattan after 125th, not the Lexington line.
Anyway, I didn’t know the answer to the street grid question at first, but you got me curious so I went and looked it up.
So that’s where the numbers start: after Houston st, and that’s where the grid is supposed to start too, but if you look at this map of Manhattan in 1811 (when the plan was made), it looks like the city already started expanding a little bit North of Houston on the West side, which would explain why the West Village streets are a mess and why the true grid doesn’t start until 14th. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...NILH9xfGmkcL-U
But on the East side, it looks like everything was able to grow up from Houston as planned. As a side note in case you didn’t know, the lettered avenues in Alphabet City are in place of negative numbers going East of First Avenue.
Elevated 1 train: Upper Manhattan is very hilly. If you ride The 1 Train North of 125th in Manhattan, you’ll notice that it’s not actually the 1 Train that’s changing elevation, it’s the ground itself that’s changing. There’s a steep hill, so the ground falls while the train tracks stay at the same level since it is cheaper to build that way, and also keeps the train running at the same speed instead of having to slow down. And then it just goes right back underground at 137th. Again because the ground itself is rising back up, not the train.
EDIT: I don’t know any books though. Sorry
Last edited by That_One_Guy; 03-08-2018 at 10:01 AM..
Yeah. You’re thinking of the 1 train (Broadway-Seventh Avenue line) that goes elevated in Manhattan after 125th, not the Lexington line.
Anyway, I didn’t know the answer to the street grid question at first, but you got me curious so I went and looked it up.
So that’s where the numbers start: after Houston st, and that’s where the grid is supposed to start too, but if you look at this map of Manhattan in 1811 (when the plan was made), it looks like the city already started expanding a little bit North of Houston on the West side, which would explain why the West Village streets are a mess and why the true grid doesn’t start until 14th. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...NILH9xfGmkcL-U
But on the East side, it looks like everything was able to grow up from Houston as planned. As a side note in case you didn’t know, the lettered avenues in Alphabet City are in place of negative numbers going East of First Avenue.
Elevated 1 train: Upper Manhattan is very hilly. If you ride The 1 Train North of 125th in Manhattan, you’ll notice that it’s not actually the 1 Train that’s changing elevation, it’s the ground itself that’s changing. There’s a steep hill, so the ground falls while the train tracks stay at the same level since it is cheaper to build that way, and also keeps the train running at the same speed instead of having to slow down. And then it just goes right back underground at 137th. Again because the ground itself is rising back up, not the train.
EDIT: I don’t know any books though. Sorry
Imagine if they uses negative numbers instead, that would be so weird
It’s more of a pedestrian passageway that cuts between Sixth and Seventh avenues, but it has it’s own street signs, crosswalks, intersections, stop signs, and I think even traffic lights in some spots, so I guess so.
Personally I really love it a lot. I don’t think that a street needs to have cars going down it to be considered a true street. We desperately need more pedestrian-only streets in The US that are so common all over Europe. Like Stone Street down in the Financial District.
I wish we had more 1/2 avenues. It would be cool to have something like 6 1/2 Avenue somewhere outside of Midtown, like the East Village for example.
It’s more of a pedestrian passageway that cuts between Sixth and Seventh avenues, but it has it’s own street signs, crosswalks, intersections, stop signs, and I think even traffic lights in some spots, so I guess so.
Personally I really love it a lot. I don’t think that a street needs to have cars going down it to be considered a true street. We desperately need more pedestrian-only streets in The US that are so common all over Europe. Like Stone Street down in the Financial District.
I wish we had more 1/2 avenues. It would be cool to have something like 6 1/2 Avenue somewhere outside of Midtown, like the East Village for example.
Yeah I like the idea too, I was just curious if it had real addresses. I don't know how many more pedestrian only streets we can realistically have, though. There are also some random tiny pedestrian only streets in the outer boroughs.
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