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Old 06-19-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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thought gentrification was poor artists finding a cheap/usually unsafe area and moving there and calling their friends to move over as well

gentrification seems to follow the hipsters/artists... because they are the "starving" career types. AKA they look for anywhere cheap enough they can afford to live. Then once critical mass of people hits, stores move in, people notice, then chain stores open up, 20 years later, the area becomes "expensive" and the next generation of starving artists have to find somewhere cheaper to live
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Older/earlier generations there are unlikely to enjoy income gains comparable to millennials
But they can open up GoFundMe campaigns to move to better living situations.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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350 square feet is unsafe? Regardless of impact, lessening parking rules may lower housing costs and increase availability
Then there's Hong Kong, where a single parking space sold for over $650,000 last year.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Has anyone given any consideration as to where exactly the 'undesireables' are supposed to go ? Does anybody even care ?
One way bus tickets to Washington DC.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Yes, NYC is currently an outlier. (it wasn't always that way) But, car usage there is less, in part, because it's easy to get around without one, and the overall area where a car isn't a necessity is pretty large.
But without a car, how are you going to transport 150 pounds of salt for your water softener? Or all the cargo that would fit into a large SUV resulting from a shopping trip to Costco or Home Depot?
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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But without a car, how are you going to transport 150 pounds of salt for your water softener? Or all the cargo that would fit into a large SUV resulting from a shopping trip to Costco or Home Depot?
It's called borrowing or renting. The vast majority of people who have large vehicles only use the capacity of said vehicles a handful of times a year, they end up spending far more on wasted fuel moving 4 or fewer people around than it would cost in beer to borrow someone else's pickup for the afternoon.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's called borrowing or renting. The vast majority of people who have large vehicles only use the capacity of said vehicles a handful of times a year, they end up spending far more on wasted fuel moving 4 or fewer people around than it would cost in beer to borrow someone else's pickup for the afternoon.
LOL, borrowing. So these environmentalists are too good to buy a pick-up, but feel OK about borrowing one? Quelle hypocrisy! Let 'em rent from Home Depot!
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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But without a car, how are you going to transport 150 pounds of salt for your water softener?
I didn't know they had hard water in the NYC area.

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Or all the cargo that would fit into a large SUV resulting from a shopping trip to Costco or Home Depot?
Generally, I have any big things I buy delivered, since I can't drive, anyway. But, the local HD's around here have a truck that you can rent, instead of wasting $$$ on a large SUV.

Ha, Katarina beat me to it! That's what I get for being distracted in the middle of making a post.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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It's called borrowing or renting. The vast majority of people who have large vehicles only use the capacity of said vehicles a handful of times a year, they end up spending far more on wasted fuel moving 4 or fewer people around than it would cost in beer to borrow someone else's pickup for the afternoon.
Says who?

Aside from moving things or carrying cargo, one other purpose of a larger vehicle is for the safety of the occupant in view of the environment. This includes the environment of other vehicles on the road. You can think about what a great urbanist you were and how much fuel you saved when driving around your not-so smartfortwo until you encounter another vehicle even at moderate speeds.

Besides think of all the manufacturing jobs and related businesses sustained by people buying and owning vehicles that you don't want them to have....
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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LOL, borrowing. So these environmentalists are too good to buy a pick-up, but feel OK about borrowing one? Quelle hypocrisy! Let 'em rent from Home Depot!
So, you're going to waste a ton of money getting 13 miles to the gallon in a pickup as your daily driver for the 2-3 times a year you might need to move something large over just getting that far cheaper to own and operate car? Sounds so "fiscally conservative" of you... Or maybe it's compensating for something...
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