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Old 08-25-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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A lot of communities in eastern Pennsylvania like this. Formerly, safe, walkable communities where long term residents aren't being forced out by high rents, but by high crime and rising property taxes.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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It's called "white flight" (although to be fair it can involve flight from any sub-demographic) and has been going on since the 1960s.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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Where in eastern PA?
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Denver
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White flight is very much talked about.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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A lot of communities in eastern Pennsylvania like this. Formerly, safe, walkable communities where long term residents aren't being forced out by high rents, but by high crime and rising property taxes.

I'm in Southeast PA (Philly burbs). Many Philly neighborhoods that were once exclusively poor, high crime, etc are being gentrified. Neighborhoods like Northern Liberties/Brewerytown, Fishtown, parts of S. Philly, W. Philly. Manayunk happened a long time ago. There has been a huge surge of this over the past ten years or so, and even more recently. I don't see gentrified areas that are being de-gentrified at this point. The major "white flight" in Philly happened in the 60's, 70', and 80's, and beyond.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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'Gentrification' is when white people move into an area with POC, and its racist.

'White flight' is when white people move out of an area with POC, and its racist.

And of course if white people move into a white neighborhood with no POC, well, that's racist, too.


Basically, when white people move, it is racist, so if you are white just stay put. You don't want to be a Nazi, do you?
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Cbus
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Generally people with money have the means to decide where they they want to live within reason. Poor people usually do not have that ability. So yes the middle-class may choose to abandon an area when the demographics change begin to change or for whatever reason but it's a choice whereas poor/working class people being driven out of a neighborhood because they can no longer afford the rent is not a choice.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Rochester
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This is common in many Canadian cities. The downtown cores and surrounding urban neighborhoods are typically the wealthier, more vibrant areas, while many suburban communities several miles away from the center of the city are the ones dealing with blight. These suburbs are often anchored by large housing projects surrounded by busy, multi-lane boulevards and strip malls, the opposite of what Americans associate the "ghetto" with. That being said, it is a byproduct of gentrification and some cities here are seeing the same thing occur. Poor residents of urban neighborhoods are displaced and have no choice but to move out to suburban towns, causing the demographics of the respective areas to effectively flip. It actually hurts the poor much more as they lose easy access to jobs, public transit and essential retail such as grocery stores. I think this could be the norm stateside 20 years from now.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast
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Gentrified refers to an area/town/neighborhood that appeals to the middle and upper classes.

Reverse gentrification happened here in Bay St. Louis, MS after hurricane Katrina. Displaced New Orleanians moved here, and elsewhere around the US. I can't speak to what happened in those places, but our town is a perfect example of how a once picturesque, arty/funky, wealthy, middle to upper-class haven lost it's identity. Mansions, boutiques, bed and breakfasts and tourists were replaced by:

Government / section 8 housing, a drug epidemic, vagrancy, transients, panhandlers, people too lazy to work and wanting handouts, homelessness, violence, gangs, blighted homes, vacant lots where homes once stood, people unable to rebuild due to skyrocketing taxes and insurance rates, trash everywhere, the highest rate of suicide and depression in all of Mississippi, gardens that don't grow well due to the poor soil after Katrina, and parents so addicted to drugs that the foster care system is overwrought in Hancock County.

For comparison sake: Ocean Springs, MS rebounded nicely and is highly desirable. Pass Christian is not where it was, but is coming along beautifully and remains a haven for the wealthy. Long Beach is doing well. Alabama beaches are beautiful and amazing. Bay St. Louis can no longer compete with the surrounding beautiful, thriving towns. It seems tired and defeated.

But it's trying ...

I love our library system
The new marina is beautiful
There's a lovely new Bed & Breakfast
Businesses are returning to North Beach
A boutique hotel is scheduled to break ground

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Old 08-26-2017, 11:30 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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'gentrification' is when white people move into an area with poc, and its racist.

'white flight' is when white people move out of an area with poc, and its racist.

And of course if white people move into a white neighborhood with no poc, well, that's racist, too.


Basically, when white people move, it is racist, so if you are white just stay put. You don't want to be a nazi, do you?
poc?
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