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Old 08-16-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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The difference between the two types of buildings you highlight is age. The first group are Victorian tenements, the latter are early 20th century.

In addition to the one's already mentioned, inner Boston is full of structures of this density. The North End probably has the most, though you can find them in Beacon Hill, Back Bay, and South End too (though those grade into four-story rowhouses more).

Some further-out neighborhoods in Boston, like Fenway-Kenmore, are very tenement heavy as well. Not to the same scale as Boston, but overall, probably more "prewar walkup" than any other city in the country besides NYC.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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The difference between the two types of buildings you highlight is age. The first group are Victorian tenements, the latter are early 20th century.

In addition to the one's already mentioned, inner Boston is full of structures of this density. The North End probably has the most, though you can find them in Beacon Hill, Back Bay, and South End too (though those grade into four-story rowhouses more).

Some further-out neighborhoods in Boston, like Fenway-Kenmore, are very tenement heavy as well. Not to the same scale as Boston, but overall, probably more "prewar walkup" than any other city in the country besides NYC.
Zillow lists the first type of buildings as mostly being built between 1910 and 1920. They replaced the atrocious tenements present in lower Manhattan prior to then.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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More neighbourhoods with similar brick buildings in London:

South Kensington

Kensington

Chelsea

Borough

Bermondsey

Covent Garden
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:05 AM
 
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More neighbourhoods with similar brick buildings in London:

South Kensington

Kensington

Chelsea

Borough

Bermondsey

Covent Garden
Nice!
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:15 AM
 
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The difference between the two types of buildings you highlight is age. The first group are Victorian tenements, the latter are early 20th century.

In addition to the one's already mentioned, inner Boston is full of structures of this density. The North End probably has the most, though you can find them in Beacon Hill, Back Bay, and South End too (though those grade into four-story rowhouses more).

Some further-out neighborhoods in Boston, like Fenway-Kenmore, are very tenement heavy as well. Not to the same scale as Boston, but overall, probably more "prewar walkup" than any other city in the country besides NYC.
I searched the build dates of both of the first buildings, and they say 1920. Wouldn't that be too late to be Victorian?
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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I searched the build dates of both of the first buildings, and they say 1920. Wouldn't that be too late to be Victorian?
Yes. Queen Victoria died in 1901, marking the end of the Victorian Age.


Speaking of Victoria, here's MORE....

Victoria

Westminster

Spitalfields

King's Cross

St. John's Wood
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I searched the build dates of both of the first buildings, and they say 1920. Wouldn't that be too late to be Victorian?
Based upon the architectural style of those buildings, 1920 seems to be too new (NYC admits their database of building age is approximate and inaccurate). I believe they are in the Beaux Arts style, which was built roughly from 1890 to 1919. So post-Victorian, but only slightly.
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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Based upon the architectural style of those buildings, 1920 seems to be too new (NYC admits their database of building age is approximate and inaccurate). I believe they are in the Beaux Arts style, which was built roughly from 1890 to 1919. So post-Victorian, but only slightly.
I figure it was just guess since most of the buildings are listed as being built in years that end in 0 and to a lesser extent 5.

I wish there was an actual way to know.
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Old 09-25-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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I would second Over the Rhine in Cincinnati. Obviously it lacks the scale of NYC, but the collection of 3-5 story italianate, late 19th century buildings is impressive. Still dirt cheap in the northernmost reaches of the neighborhood.

https://goo.gl/maps/MryTq9ccPVH2

https://goo.gl/maps/918NQ3fTVr52

https://goo.gl/maps/918NQ3fTVr52
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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Hard to see behind the trees but here is a whole string in Hartford CT
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7613...7i13312!8i6656

And a few more
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7554...7i13312!8i6656

New London Connecticut
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3551...7i13312!8i6656

Worcester MA
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2578...7i13312!8i6656

Providence RI
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8225...7i13312!8i6656


Basically I think most North Eastern cities with over 100k population seem to have at least a few.
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