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Old 06-21-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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Buckhead Atlanta is not a downtown.
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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Just Google Heart of the city: Alexander Garvin. He's on video, too This site won't allow me to put the content here
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Downtown Atlanta never was. So it had nothing to decline from.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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In Atlanta and Houston case: they both have 3 downtowns. When he said Downtown Houston never was in decline, he most likely meant Galleria and or Medical Center. In Atlanta, Buckhead was not in decline.
You can make a case for Houston have multiple downtowns as they act as independent city centers.

Buckhead on the other hand is not physically or economically independent enough from the rest of Atlanta to be considered it's own downtown by any margin.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:39 PM
 
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Clearly I can see Chicago on the list. Once just the Loop was downtown, but north of the river developed so it got added.
Northeast of river1970s - 2016 photo - Opposite direction

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Old 06-22-2019, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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It's from the author: Alexander Garvin; may look good but mostly one person of Quickens artificially inflating downtown and its market place. Cleveland has some growth but not enough to offset a decline overall. It may reach resurgence stage. However, I personally don't know. I didn't come up with this list. The urban expert and planner did-Alexander. Check his book out for more info.
How ridiculous! There are multiple investors in Detroit’s downtown boom currently, Dan Gilbert just happens to be the one with the biggest portfolio. Downtown is hardly declining!
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:13 AM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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Just Google Heart of the city: Alexander Garvin. He's on video, too This site won't allow me to put the content here
Why go to his site? From what you've posted concerning his book, seems so off point that his site is probably not worth taking a peak. Yet alone purchasing his book.
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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It's from the author: Alexander Garvin; may look good but mostly one person of Quickens artificially inflating downtown and its market place. Cleveland has some growth but not enough to offset a decline overall. It may reach resurgence stage. However, I personally don't know. I didn't come up with this list. The urban expert and planner did-Alexander. Check his book out for more info.
This makes no sense. Downtown cleveland has literally never had more people in it. Do some basic research.
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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Downtown Indy... If you love concrete it is great....
Hot summers, cold winters. And the flying saucer thing is just a pain to the eyes...
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Old 06-22-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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A new book out by Alexander Garvin out: Downtown revitalization- 3 categories
1. downtown that have always thrived and never been decline: Buckhead Atlanta, San Jose, Indianapolis and Portland
2. downtowns that have been in decline but now surging: Lower Manhattan, Seattle, L.A., Denver, Chicago and Cincinnati 3. downtowns remain in decline: Detroit, Cleveland, Bridgeport and St. Louis
Not including Philadelphia in number 2 and number 1(specific parts of downtown never declined) makes this book bogus, imo. And where's Boston ??
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