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Yes, those are some other ways to incorporate. Perhaps in some States a municipality can be incorporated as a "Holler," but I doubt any State allows incorporation as a Suburb.
Yes, those are some other ways to incorporate. Perhaps in some States a municipality can be incorporated as a "Holler," but I doubt any State allows incorporation as a Suburb.
Every state has different terminology. For example, Pennsylvania doesn't have "towns" except for one, Bloomsburg. Everything else in PA is a city (with several different classes IIRC), borough, or a township. Every square inch of land in PA is incorporated in some way.
New York and Wisconsin have "towns" that are more like Pennsylvania's townships. ETC.
The one characteristic that positively identifies a suburb is its location near another larger city. I would go on to say with no or little open space between it and the next such municipality.
Every state has different terminology. For example, Pennsylvania doesn't have "towns" except for one, Bloomsburg. Everything else in PA is a city (with several different classes IIRC), borough, or a township. Every square inch of land in PA is incorporated in some way.
New York and Wisconsin have "towns" that are more like Pennsylvania's townships. ETC.
The one characteristic that positively identifies a suburb is its location near another larger city. I would go on to say with no or little open space between it and the next such municipality.
In New England, a city has a mayor and a city council. A town has selectmen and a town meeting. Those positions are usually unpaid. Small towns have open town meetings. Larger towns elect town meeting representatives. The town meeting approves the annual budget and things like new schools and zoning law changes. Cities are usually larger population but people can vote to change to city mayor-city council government for any size town. Palmer MA has city government at population 12,000.
In New England, a city has a mayor and a city council. A town has selectmen and a town meeting. Those positions are usually unpaid. Small towns have open town meetings. Larger towns elect town meeting representatives. The town meeting approves the annual budget and things like new schools and zoning law changes. Cities are usually larger population but people can vote to change to city mayor-city council government for any size town. Palmer MA has city government at population 12,000.
In New England, a city has a mayor and a city council. A town has selectmen and a town meeting. Those positions are usually unpaid. Small towns have open town meetings. Larger towns elect town meeting representatives. The town meeting approves the annual budget and things like new schools and zoning law changes. Cities are usually larger population but people can vote to change to city mayor-city council government for any size town. Palmer MA has city government at population 12,000.
12,000 isn't even the size of a major suburb. I realize that some States allow incorporation of even less populated cities. In California a city of 50,000 would be considered small.
12,000 isn't even the size of a major suburb. I realize that some States allow incorporation of even less populated cities. In California a city of 50,000 would be considered small.
My point is that in New England, “city†is a political organization reflecting the type of local government and has nothing to do with population density or “incorporationâ€. It’s a place with almost no county government so unincorporated pretty much doesn’t exist beyond remote sections of Maine and New Hampshire with extremely low population density. Framingham MA is population 73,000 and has town meeting and selectmen. It’s a town even though it’s high population density.
"In all, there are 271 incorporated municipalities in Colorado. There are 196 towns and 73 cities. The municipalities are governed under one of five different structures. This includes consolidated city and county, home rule municipality, statutory city, statutory town, and territorial charter municipality. The laws of the state make only a few distinctions between cities and towns. As a general rule, the cities are more populated than towns, although there are some exceptions." http://worldpopulationreview.com/sta...lation/cities/
Well, y'all are just arguing about which vocabulary words to apply to different kinds of municipalities.
A suburb is a municipality (whether called "town", "village", "city", or other) in close proximity to a large municipality (whatever the large one is called) and within the larger one's metropolitan area (using whatever definition you wish). That is what a suburb is.
If we want to talk definitions and word origins, "suburb" comes from "sub-urban", meaning not quite urban. Suburb is a place, and sub-urban is a description of how that place is built and populated.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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cookie cutter developments.
My neighborhood in Cincinnati was as cookie cutter as it gets - three or four different models of Cape Cod houses on more than dozen streets of a subdivision built in the 1920s.
And there are lawns.
Nevermind the row house neighborhoods in Baltimore, Philadelphia, etc. Talk about cookie cutter. Right in the city.
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One or two hiking/ recreational parks for the "family" experience.
Yep, we had that, too in my city neighborhood.
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Recently started seeing the "urgent cares"
We have those in the city.
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No fire /trash burning,
Can't do that in Cincinnati, either.
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I am not aware of any state where a place can be incorporated as a suburb, but as a City, Village or Town, and some never bothered to incorporate at all!
Suburb isn't a political subdivision, though; city, village, etc. are.
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