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It’s an equally ugly sense of entitlement to assume my well funded project should change your zoning.
We all have the choice to buy into the zoning we prefer.
It’s an equally ugly sense of entitlement to assume my well funded project should change your zoning.
We all have the choice to buy into the zoning we prefer.
When 66 pct of Seattle is zoned single family only and you need a million to buy a house, we certainly do not have a choice.
If your town has no multifamily zoning and the price is too high for a SFH for people working jobs like teacher and firefighter, you have banished them from your town.
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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When 66 pct of Seattle is zoned single family only and you need a million to buy a house, we certainly do not have a choice.
If your town has no multifamily zoning and the price is too high for a SFH for people working jobs like teacher and firefighter, you have banished them from your town.
Zoning and any changes are the responsibility of the elected officials (city or county). People can choose to vote for candidates that support more multi-family zoning, but more likely the current residents owning SF homes are going to elect officials that support the status quo.
I'd rather they bought out the whole neighborhood than stuffing a few multis here and there, and "mixing". Just take it all down and build condos, apartments and businesses in a planned community. You want density, take all the SFHs out in the places that have already been ruined. Right now there are areas full of older homes unsuitable for suburban living due to unrestricted growth, and no planning.
What happens when the area is already getting blighted and then zoning is even relaxed more? Slums and chaos. It needs to be rebuilt from the ground.
Right now flight is happening in my suburban neighborhood because they are just stuffing buildings in willy nilly, there is no plan.
When 66 pct of Seattle is zoned single family only and you need a million to buy a house, we certainly do not have a choice.
If your town has no multifamily zoning and the price is too high for a SFH for people working jobs like teacher and firefighter, you have banished them from your town.
I’m not suggesting bad zoning doesn’t exist, but the only legitimate solution is voting for local officials who are pro-growth.
The illegitimate solution that we see far too often, is when big moneyed interests purchase land for a project they know full well is not suitable for current zoning.
They then proceed to lobby, wine and dine and corrupt local officials to either change zoning laws or get their project exempted. It’s understandable why many local residents feel certain projects are being slammed down their throats.
I’m not suggesting bad zoning doesn’t exist, but the only legitimate solution is voting for local officials who are pro-growth.
The illegitimate solution that we see far too often, is when big moneyed interests purchase land for a project they know full well is not suitable for current zoning.
They then proceed to lobby, wine and dine and corrupt local officials to either change zoning laws or get their project exempted. It’s understandable why many local residents feel certain projects are being slammed down their throats.
Yes it's very understable that rich white people feel entitled to elements beyond their control and will ***** and moan and scream about things being forced down their throats when someone wants to add a mother in law apartment to their house. They want their zoning frozen in amber and have the time and money to fight any proposed zoning change. Whereas those with less money, who are less likely to be white, don't have time and money to lobby and their neighborhoods take all the upzoning
In my city, and in my last city, you needed about a million. Its not the end of the world to have a different type of housing stock in your street. Cities throughout the world have had this. It was even de rigeur in the US until we outlawed it (an idea based on racism and exclusion anyway ).
You are absolutely trying to tell people what to do with their property. I think you should accept that and be real. The rest of what you mention about transient population , crime , etc is all Bs that is not borne by statistics.
Did you know you can own an apartment ? I'm typing from one right now! There's even a few single family homes on my street. OH THE HORROR
Zoning tells people what they can and cannot do where they live. If people in a zoning area prefer SFH zoning and bought when it was SFH zoning, then that is the way it should remain. They purchased a SFH wanting the benefits of a more stable environment that homeowners bring. I am thankful that the neighbors in the zoning area where we moved decided to downzone from 1 house per acre to R5A. More breathing room and we won’t have to worry about condos/apartments being built next door.
SFH zoning is not racist and exclusive. It was at one time but thankfully there are laws against this. A POC can live in any area they choose if they can afford it. You sound like several of our city council members who stated that SFH zoning was privileged and racist. You are just a bunch of whining SJWs who want what people work for handed to you. Go away.
Yes it's very understable that rich white people feel entitled to elements beyond their control and will ***** and moan and scream about things being forced down their throats when someone wants to add a mother in law apartment to their house. They want their zoning frozen in amber and have the time and money to fight any proposed zoning change. Whereas those with less money, who are less likely to be white, don't have time and money to lobby and their neighborhoods take all the upzoning
See ? Totally fair !
Totally agree .. but nobody should be bitching, moaning and whining if the issue doesnt directly affect you. If it is for the greater good and to help lower housing prices, why do NIMBYs even get such a say. Most projects have more YIMBYs... but YIMBYs dont attend these meetings. Every NIMBY complaint should be taken to 1/4 consideration for bias and underrepresentation of YIMBYs.
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