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Dense Urban - Cities that are or are look like legacy cities in built environment which are very walk-able and are vibrant with street life (outside of downtown). Living without a car is completely doable.
Hybrid Urban/Suburban - Cities that aren't as dense or walkable as the above category, but walkable in their own way, and aren't too sprawly either. Living without a car is possible but not always ideal. There are several pockets of vibrancy in regards to street life in the city but not as prevalent in the above category (outside of downtown).
Suburban Sprawl - Cities that are very spread out and are not walkable at all. Living without a car is very difficult. Very few spots that are very vibrant in regards to street life (outside of downtown).
These are the cities you have to group and please keep these to city proper:
Boston
NYC
Philadelphia
Washington DC
Charlotte
Atlanta
Miami
Jacksonville
Orlando
New Orleans
Houston
Dallas
Austin
San Antonio
Milwaukee
Chicago
Minneapolis
Detroit
St. Louis
Pittsburgh
Denver
Seattle
Portland (OR)
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Honolulu
San Diego
Phoenix
Las Vegas
Indianapolis
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Nashville
Baltimore
Bonus Round:
What are some cities you see transitioning from one group to the other?
Urban
Boston
NYC
Philly
DC
Miami
Chicago
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Hybrid
New Orleans
Milwaukee
Detroit
St. Louis
Pittsburgh
Denver
Portland
Los Angeles
Honolulu
San Diego
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Baltimore
Suburban
Charlotte
Atlanta
Jacksonville
Orlando
Houston
Dallas
Austin
San Antonio
Indianapolis
Nashville
Very Suburban (even core neighborhoods not walkable)
Phoenix
Las Vegas
Changing categories
- Phoenix is trying to climb into the Hybrid category, but it has a long way to go.
- LA is one of the closer Hybrid cities to being an Urban city --- really, it's encumbered by its large size and insisting on making its rail expansions below-ground.
- Of the Hybrid cities, Milwaukee is probably best positioned to climb to the Urban ranks with its connected street grid and moderately high density, but the conservative metro area and state it's located in, and its extreme levels of segregation, make this tough.
I believe that Very Suburban areas would be characterized by-relative to their populations-unusually small and/or weak downtowns.
(BTW, I have seen Las Vegas put in an "Oddball Tier" of its own, described as a casino surrounded by suburb).
The Suburban cities may have substantial/significant downtowns, while otherwise being overwhelmingly Single Family Homes with yards. This category probably includes the majority of U.S. cities.
Last edited by Tim Randal Walker; 02-21-2020 at 10:12 AM..
Even the suburbs at the outer edges of London are very walkable with vibrant town centres.
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Originally Posted by ilovelondon
Suburbs in and around LONDON
Town centres form the heart of the suburbs anywhere in the UK. Housing stock varies depending on when the streets were laid out. Oldest parts close to the town centres tend to be denser, while outlying areas are somewhat sprawling.
London's Town Centre Network is divided into 5 different categories: International, Metropolitan, Major, District, and Local. A full list of London's town centres (excluding local town centres) can be found here.
Dense urban
Boston
NYC
Philadelphia
Washington DC
New Orleans
Chicago
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Denver
Seattle
Portland (OR)
San Francisco
Baltimore
Hybrid
Charlotte
Minneapolis
Milwaukee
Honolulu
San Diego
Indianapolis
Nashville
St. Louis
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Miami
Suburban sprawl (with an OK downtown)
Los Angeles
Austin
Atlanta
Houston
Dallas
San Antonio
Jacksonville
Orlando
Hyper-suburban sprawl (even the downtown is a suburb)
Phoenix
Las Vegas
Bonus Round
Los Angeles is trying to be Urban until it's blue in the face, but with the pervasive car culture, it's impossible.
San Antonio is trying to be Hybrid, but it's too spread out for it, and its downtown remains a theme park of sort.
Miami wishes it were Suburban (like LA), but its buildable land is too constrained, keeping it in the Hybrid category.
St. Louis in Urban in theory, but Hybrid in practice, since its downtown is quite hollowed-out and sprawled.
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Drop Denver out of Dense Urban - no way. San Diego is way denser than Denver and I wouldn’t be placing San Diego up there. Also Charlotte, Indianapolis and Nashville are not at all even hybrid urban/suburban, they are straight up suburban.
It means the downtown area looks suburban: wide roads with no proper sidewalks, parking lots all over the place, restaurant chains on every corner, and no trace of history in sight.
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