11-25-2007, 04:31 PM
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I thought ebay was based in the Bay area of California?
There is a customer service center near Salt Lake.
11-25-2007, 09:15 PM
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Relocated from: Riverside, California
NON-LDS
Job Market: "Appears to be great", however I have sent my resume out about 10 times in the last three years, and have been called back four times for an interview.
Emploers treatment toward you? Fair
Gangs: None that I know about, no graffiti (unlike the wall behine my house in California)
Discrimination: You hear about it, but my neighborhood is mixed and both my LDS neighbors and Non-LDS neighbors are very friendly and have welcomed us into their homes
Schools: Although none of my kids are school age yet, my wife is a school teacher and Jordan School district is a little below average, pay is way to low for teachers. However, my neighbors RAVE about Alpine School district schools and are very happy with the schools in Highland/Alpine area.
Do you feel you mae the right decision moving to Utah? Obsolutely yes. Regardless of what you hear about Utah and "Mormons". You cannot beat the traffic, the airport is very easy to fly in/out of (as I fly about 2 weeks per month). The recreation is second to none. Skiing is MUCH better than anywhere in the U.S. Taxes are reasonable, crime is low, schools are average, people are friendly and housing prices are fair.
Please tell us what you have personally experienced, so we can understand eachother and learn from one another.
This is a great thing to bring up.....I think that people place WAY to much emphasis on religion as part of their daily social lives. If you ask most people, Religion is a personal thing and others usually cannot sway their beliefs,which is wonderful. As for my experience as a "outsider". I have lived in Utah for three years after living in (Hawaii, Virginia, California, Rhode Island, Mass, New Jersey, Ohio and Pennslyvania), and I must say Utah is the best place I have ever lived.
I must admit, I too was worried about the mormon/non-mormon thing, but eventually developed friendships with both mormons and non-mormons alike. Mormons live a very church/family oriented live and spend most of their time in church related activities. One of our mormon neighbors would come to neighborhood halloween parties, and even our neighborhood dinner out nights.
We as non-mormons and those that are mormons need to realize that Utah is changing as quickly as the world is changinge, and must learn to accept our differences and embrace our similarities. Utah could be a MUCH better place is we create neighborhoods that are build on "you watch my back, I will watch your back" thoughts. I mormon friend helped me get a job, while a non-mormon neighbor shoveled my driveway the day my daughter was born.
I still hear of some mormons that have moved into our little non-mormon haven, and are very confrontational. We have all offered our help to them when they need something, and even invited them to backyard BBQ's, but they have declined it all. In my opinion, you cannot close your door to thy neighbor as they may be the one to protect your house when you are away or make sure your child does not get hit by the passing car. If you push away your neighbor because of their faith, you yourself are not a very good neighbor.
If you feel they need to express yourself, this is why there is forum and freedom of speech. Some have great things to say and some not.
11-25-2007, 09:37 PM
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I'm considering relocating to the Salt Lake area. How much do you need to earn to live comfortably??? What is the real cost of living (utilities, taxes, etc...).
Joe, I moved here from California three years ago and housing prices have gone up. However, if you are relocating to the Salt Lake Valley, you could purchase a nice home between $250-$350K. Taxes in Salt Lake are a little higher than Utah County, but still reasonable. Utilities are reasonable, electric/gas pretty much average to the rest of the country. Water can be higher, it depends on where you live. You do not find Mello Roos like you do in California, which is basically an additional tax to help in newly developed areas. You can find new homes on the West side of the freeway, while mostly older homes east of the freeway.
Gas prices are crazy here (but still not as bad as California). Last fall our prices were the lowest in the country, and at one point our gas prices were the highest. Depending on where you are coming from, your commute will be shorter, which means less money spent on gas.
My wife and I are living on a single income, with one child and one on the way with a $1800 a month mortgage. My income ranges from $80-90K (sales), and we live comfortably here and have some extra for skiing or an sushi dinner from time to time. You could live comfortably at about $75K I would think (it just depends on your lifestyle). A single person could live here for $45-50K easily.
Hope this helps.
11-25-2007, 10:10 PM
Location: Albuquerque
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I thought ebay was based in the Bay area of California?
There is a customer service center in Draper. I would have stayed except for the fact that I felt bad about being a female over 30 who has to work since apparently that is not the thing to do in Utah.
11-26-2007, 07:57 AM
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There is a customer service center in Draper. I would have stayed except for the fact that I felt bad about being a female over 30 who has to work since apparently that is not the thing to do in Utah.
Funny, In So Utah wh3ere it is more conservative and more traditional LDS, I was over 30 and single along with several other LDS ladies. We never had a problem. We used to joke that we were going to be the first Mormon Nuns. I find it interesting that you say it is more of an absolute in SLC area that you were picked on for being single when I last lived in Park City, and attended the U of U, Many of the female students taking classes along with me (molecular bio chem classes) were older and single. They had no such problems either. That was in the mid 90's. I was married at the time. I was kidded all the time about being married and going for a science degree. I never took it seriously that they would tease me.
11-26-2007, 05:57 PM
Location: Northern Nevada
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We lived in Sierra Madre 1970-1979. I was bussed to Pasadena schools (Edison Elementary, Eliot Jr. High & PHS), though we moved away after my sophomore year. GO BULLDOGS!
Did you ever eat at McDonald's on Foothill, near Santa Anita Dr.? I worked there.
I graduated from Arcadia..my mother in law worked in the cafeteria at Elliot during the time you were there...what a coincidence!
11-27-2007, 03:32 PM
Location: Rapid City, SD
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Relocated from: Rock Springs, WY
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Job Market:Not that good in my area, I live in Price. There have been a lot of layoffs in my husband's field, coal mining.
Employers treatment toward you? I am not employed I'm a SAHM, but things have been good for my husband.
Gangs: None that I know about
Discrimination:I haven't encountered any
Schools: My daughter started Kindergarten this year and her school is great! I really like the teachers and the parents are very involved.
Do you feel you made the right decision moving to Utah? We are kind of regretting it right now, only because my husband works in coal mining and after the incident in August coal mining is shaky around here.
Please tell us what you have personally experienced, so we can understand each other and learn from one another.
I love it here, it is so beautiful. I have not experienced any discrimination being a non-mormon and my daughter hasn't had a hard time making friends at school. It's also nice to go shopping on Sunday and have the place basically be deserted. lol. I haven't made any really great friends yet, but we've only been here since the end of July. My neighbors are decent. They are much more friendly than they were anywhere else I lived (South Dakota, Wyoming, and New Mexico - the people there were so rude!).
11-27-2007, 05:22 PM
Location: Albuquerque
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Funny, In So Utah wh3ere it is more conservative and more traditional LDS, I was over 30 and single along with several other LDS ladies. We never had a problem. We used to joke that we were going to be the first Mormon Nuns. I find it interesting that you say it is more of an absolute in SLC area that you were picked on for being single when I last lived in Park City, and attended the U of U, Many of the female students taking classes along with me (molecular bio chem classes) were older and single. They had no such problems either. That was in the mid 90's. I was married at the time. I was kidded all the time about being married and going for a science degree. I never took it seriously that they would tease me.
It really could be Salt Lake. I find people here automatically assume that there is something "wrong" with me. I have become very, very sensitive about my look and even had a rhinoplasty within months of moving here. That has made no difference though, the nose will most likely need to be revised. People make shocking comments about me being "that way" or that I am reliant on my hand (yes, very, very shocking, I know, especially from total strangers in public). I even got a "cat litter" comment over at the Fort Union Target; ie, that I must be a pathetic cat owner because I'm not shopping with my kids and husband. It is so sad, I have never been so mistreated in my life. I was never treated this way in Albuquerque. I do have a couple of guys interested in me, and have seriously considered having one of them with me wherever I go on weekends rather than going places by myself as I am often apt to do. My mom taught me to get in the car and "charge" any time anything needs to be done (ie, errands, etc) and that shopping is not necessarily a "family" affair.
11-29-2007, 01:33 PM
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I grew up in So. Cal. until I was 10. We had Santana winds. I guess no one but me felt them or had the bad sinus headaches they caused.
It's Santa Ana winds.
11-29-2007, 01:49 PM
Location: Northern Nevada
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It's Santa Ana winds.
I've seen it spelled both ways Santa Ana and Santana...either is correct
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Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)