07-12-2016, 01:50 PM
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Wife and I are wanting to move to either Oregon or Washington since she can go to school from virtually anywhere. I know it's kind of broad, but for now we have researched just areas in Washington.
A little about us, we are a family of three, my wife and I and newly rescued dog. We like the outdoors, good food, playing sports (tennis and basketball) fishing off shore, hiking, running for exercise etc.
Jobs: my background is hospitality and physical education. My wife's is counseling and administration in schools.
Areas of interest to us are:
1. Affordability
2. Good neighborhood, close to walk to grocery stores?
3. Costco and trader joes are huge in our households (one if not two of these stores fairly close by 20min max
4. Close enough To drive short distance to fish? Rivers, lakes, sounds, you name it I'd like to fish it.
5. Quiet neighborhood, not big partiers but I do like to consume the occasional local brew
6. Pet friendly
7. Area that would help us in terms of job availability (see above)
8. Fresh produce availability doesn't have to be a farmers market necessarily.
I know we are leaving the best weather the country has to offer, but we are willing to succumb to a different climate for a change.
Areas we physically visited in the Seattle areas that we can see ourselves possibly living in based on our wish list above were Lynwood, Edmonds, and Renton.
We have only researched these places in other areas of Washington: tri cities ( Richland and Kennewick mostly) and Vancouver.
As far as Oregon goes we want to stay away from Portland, and have friends who live in Beaverton and just made the move last year from sunny San Diego up north and love it. More research is needed to be done for Oregon.
So what am I asking?
Thoughts and opinions of areas to live, maybe some very basic pros and cons to Washington and Oregon. And your guys opinion to get get best acclimated to the area i.e. Church, gym, etc.
Sorry for the lengthy post but love this community, and we are anxious for the move so all help would be greatly appreciated!
07-12-2016, 02:42 PM
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More urban or more rural? Do you care about school quality? What's your budget? Buy or rent? Apt or house?
I think just about everything (except perhaps walking to Costco or TJs) can be had in the Vancouver area but we can help you narrow it down a little with more info.
07-12-2016, 02:47 PM
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More urban or more rural?
Do you care about school quality? What's your budget? Buy or rent? Apt or house?
I think just about everything (except perhaps walking to Costco or TJs) can be had in the Vancouver area but we can help you narrow it down a little with more info.
They don't have kids.
Bend, OR, fills a number of your requirements, and has better weather than the coastal regions. There are schools there, no way to know if there would be openings in your wife's areas of expertise, but there are other towns within a decent commute, too. Hospitality good work, too, as it's not only a retirement destination, but a vacation destination, too. And what do you mean by Phys Ed? Are you certified to teach in the schools? Are you a personal trainer?
07-12-2016, 04:35 PM
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More urban or more rural? Do you care about school quality? What's your budget? Buy or rent? Apt or house?
I think just about everything (except perhaps walking to Costco or TJs) can be had in the Vancouver area but we can help you narrow it down a little with more info.
There are two Costco's and a Trader Joe's in Vancouver. One doesn't walk to them though. One doesn't walk really anywhere in Vancouver much except perhaps a few places like downtown Vancouver and downtown Camas.
Frankly most of the more upscale and growing suburban areas in the Northwest will basically fit your requirements. Bellingham, Greater Seattle Area, Tacoma, Olympia, Vancouver, and the greater Portland area. Perhaps also Salem, Eugene, and Bend but those smaller areas are going to be harder to find work. Jobs will be easiest somewhere the greater Seattle or Portland metro areas.
I would think you are going about it backwards. Find the new jobs you like first and the rest will fall into place.
07-12-2016, 05:43 PM
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Thank you for the replies.
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More urban or more rural? Do you care about school quality? What's your budget? Buy or rent? Apt or house?
We like the in between or urban and rural. Not extreme on either side. No kiddos yet for school quality to be a concern. Budget is in around $1k per month for rental 1-2br.
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And what do you mean by Phys Ed? Are you certified to teach in the schools? Are you a personal trainer?
I am not "certified" but graduated with BS degree in Kinesiology so I can do all the aforementioned careers.
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I would think you are going about it backwards. Find the new jobs you like first and the rest will fall into place.
As much as I agree with you, I want to take a step out or a leap of faith on this one if you will. If you have any input into the the hot jobs there or any related to my field of study that would be much appreciated. I have done research to not to much avail.
Once again thank you!
07-12-2016, 09:29 PM
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If you would like to be near recreation in a very dog friendly town...
If you can be near, but not IN Portland,
I'd look at Washougal, WA
Get a job with Rebound PT in Camas.
(Many other options within 20 min)
TJ and Costco within 20 min.
Excellent fishing, big river, (2 min) small river, (1 min) lakes, (10 min) and 1.5 hrs to ocean
Much fishing within 2 hrs. Mt Adams lakes are great. So... Hood River, OR or White Salmon, WA would be nice too. But 1 hr to Costco.
07-12-2016, 09:31 PM
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I am not "certified" but graduated with BS degree in Kinesiology so I can do all the aforementioned careers.
All what aforementioned careers? You only mentioned hospitality. You didn't mention anything in relation to Phys Ed. You'd need teacher certification to teach PE in the schools.
07-13-2016, 05:54 AM
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Yes, I was going to recommend washougal as well. It may be a little rural depending on your preferences but it's still affordable and close to great fishing and gorge activities. If you're looking to teach phys Ed you may want to check the local catholic and private schools as they don't require a teaching cert. There are also many PT options nearby.
The only downside with washougal is that the schools aren't great which may matter to you in the future.
07-13-2016, 07:02 AM
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Yes, I was going to recommend washougal ...
The only downside with washougal is that the schools aren't great which may matter to you in the future.
For other / future readers or inquiries... (Where schooling might matter)
But... 'Washougal is Home of a great Homeschoolers network + where Moore Foundation homeschool institue began n the 1970's'
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Nearby Camas and Battleground have great home school groups, very helpful and many resources including current and retired teachers and professors to help (and parents more learn too)
CCHE is a great resource
Clark County Home Educators - News & Events
Washougal's dogpark and river access for dogs is quite nice. (Both Columbia and Washougal Rivers)
Great Hiking and pics are within minutes, or outside you window. Portland (if you must) is 20 min to PDX, 30 to downtown
Public transit is available.
07-13-2016, 09:07 AM
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Thank you for the replies.
We like the in between or urban and rural. Not extreme on either side. No kiddos yet for school quality to be a concern. Budget is in around $1k per month for rental 1-2br.
I am not "certified" but graduated with BS degree in Kinesiology so I can do all the aforementioned careers.
As much as I agree with you, I want to take a step out or a leap of faith on this one if you will. If you have any input into the the hot jobs there or any related to my field of study that would be much appreciated. I have done research to not to much avail.
Once again thank you!
If you are going to leap without jobs lined up then my best advice would be to look at the larger suburban fringe areas around Portland or the greater Puget Sound area. Your budget won't come close to getting you an apartment in Portland or Seattle proper. But if you want to maximize your chances of employment you should probably settle in one of the larger metro areas. Somewhere in the greater Seattle area between Everett and Tacoma or somewhere in the greater Portland area between Vancouver and Salem. Sure there are other nice mountain towns with lots of outdoor possibilities like say Bend or Wenatchee and towns on the coast like Newport and Astoria. But if you stray out beyond the major metro areas you are going to be reducing your job prospects by a factor of 100 or more.
If you are willing to give up proximity to the ocean then Spokane and Boise would also meet nearly all of your criteria as would Salt Lake City.
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)