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Old 09-14-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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A question for vegans and juicers: Do you use supplements? <snip>

Is it possible to get your full nutrition without having to take expensive supplements? Or are there certain supplements that you would consider, without a doubt, essential?
I don't find them expensive, but I do eight supplements every day, and I think most vegans should do at least the D. I get them from DEVA and the vegan selection on Puritan's Pride:
  1. Multivit & Mineral
  2. D
  3. Vegan Hair Nails & Skin with Biotin (really makes a difference)
  4. Glucosamine MSM & CMO
  5. Cal-Mag Plus
  6. C 500 Mg
  7. B Complex and B12
  8. Flax oil (has to be refridgerated)
Some people do megadoses, but I don't overdo it; I just take one of the recommended doses of each, every day. Otherwise, I think it's just excreted and it's wasted.

HTH
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Washington County, ME
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This is a great thread - lots of interesting ideas, and help for me.

Can i slip in an off-topic (a bit) question?

What types of juicers do you all use - i'm in the market for a good, powerful one.

If you'd rather msg me that is fine. Thanks.
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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What types of juicers do you all use - i'm in the market for a good, powerful one.

If you'd rather msg me that is fine. Thanks.
This is right up my alley, Jellybean. I spent a month researching every juicer available because I was just in the market for one, too.

There are several different kinds of juicers and many different brands. What you need to know before you even research them is what your needs are for a juicer.

Are you changing your dietary habits into more whole, raw, organic and healthy foods? Are you just looking for a way to add a few more veggies to your family's diet and juicing is the way you want to go? Are you just wanting to make the occasional fun, fruity drinks?

Will you be doing some serious juicing? Will you be doing a juice fast and/or using your juicer every day? Or just once in awhile or a couple times a week? What's your commitment level (if you've decided)?

What do you intend to juice mostly? Veggies? Fruits? Greens?

Do you need the juicer to do anything else? There are juicers that make pasta, nut milks, grind grain into flour, etc.,

Once you know what your goal and commitment level are to USING a juicer, you'll be better prepared when it comes to BUYING one.

If you're into changing your lifestyle, getting healthier and using your juicer often, then it's worth investing a little more and getting a good one. If it's just for occasional juicing, a juicer from WalMart or Target will do just fine.

The two types of juicers are the centrifugal and the single auger. The centrifugal juicer uses a metal mesh to cut and juice your produce like a salad spinner. They run at a higher RPM, which isn't necessarily good or bad. Studies show that they do increase the temperature of the juice a degree or two (which you don't want) as well as oxidize the juice (which you don't) want because these things kill some of the micronutrients).

But, here's an important word on that! There's a lot of hype about the temperature and oxidation of centrifugal juicers. While it's true that they do kill some of the micronutrients, it's a negligible amount, especially if you drink the juice right away. The only time this is a big issue is if you're making the juice and storing it for 24-48 hours. Then it becomes a little more of an issue.

Centrifugal juicers run from very inexpensive store models (like Hamilton Beach, Braun, etc.,) to expensive top models like Breville and Omega. Breville makes a line of them ranging from $100 - $400.

Single-auger juicers (also known as masticating juicers) work by a large, screw looking type piece that crushes the food at very slow RPMs, which increases the nutrient density because it's a slower process which doesn't heat up the juice because of the high speeds. Studies have shown that single-auger juicers DO produce a higher nutrient dense juice but they do tend to cost more. They can also make nut milks, grind flour, make nut butters and pasta (sometimes needing a special attachment that comes with the juicer).

In my own search, my goal was to change my lifestyle and get healthier. I'm looking into juicing a wide variety of produce, including greens, and using the juicer daily.

The most important thing to me was the quality of the juice. I wanted that nutrient-dense juice and was willing to spend more money on a juicer that gave me that. So, I bought the Omega VRT350 HD. (Link goes to Amazon.) It had great reviews and, of the single auger juicers, this one was exactly what I wanted. It takes up very little space, is very easy to clean, very quiet, very sturdy and has a great 15 year warranty which is unheard of!

TIP: If you're doing some serious juicing, get a juicer with a great warranty. A juicer is only as good as it's warranty.

I got the juicer and was so excited! This got mostly great reviews from people on Amazon so I knew I chose the right juicer. I read the manual, watched online videos and learned how to use it correctly. I alternated hard and soft produce, cut it small (the feed shoot is very small) and fed it in slowly. It takes more time to prepare all the produce and juice it but I was prepared to accept that because it takes less time to clean and the juice is a better quality.

BUT... I had all of the experiences that all the BAD reviews said they had. It kept jamming (making scary sounds), the pulp ejection shoot was unusually small and kept clogging and the amount of pulp in the juice was abnormal and unacceptable! It was like pureeing the produce in a blender. Even trying to strain it took a long time because the pulp was too thick. This was too much for me and I decided to return the juicer.

In the end, it took at least 10 times longer to use than a centrifugal juicer would. I didn't care how easy it was to clean because that saved time was eaten up by just using the machine and preparing the produce.

I decided that getting a centrifugal juicer was the way to go. Out of all the centrifugal juicers on the market, I am very confident that this is the brand to go with. Many people own this one and it gets great reviews. There are still some bad reviews about it on Amazon but mostly because people either don't know how to use it or got a lemon (which is remedied by getting it replaced by the company).

With the money I saved from returning the Omega, I got TWO of the Breville BJE510XL Ikon 900-Watt Variable-Speed Juice Extractors. (One for a friend.) It's marvelous. The feed shoot is huge and fits a whole apple so there's very little time spent cutting produce to fit. The clean-up takes a minute or two longer but that time is justified by how much time it takes to juice your produce... literally seconds!

This model of the Breville is a step higher than the model most people get (which is the Breville Juice Fountain Plus). I like the variable speeds because juicing soft produce at a lower speed gives great results! But, you need the higher speed for harder produce, like beets and carrots. Breville also makes a compact juicer that rates high and is reported to work really well for just under $100.

No complaints about the Breville Juicer, which has a 10 year warranty!

But, I always say to use what you have and what you can afford. Get a used one on Craigslist or go with Hamilton Beach, or just use your blender and then strain the juice out of a mesh bag. (A paint can strainer bag works PERFECT and they're really cheap at Home Depot!)

If you have any questions, just ask. I've researched juicers to death and could now write a book about them.

Lastly, there's a guy on YouTube (John Kohler) who demonstrates and discusses all kinds of juicers. He sells them but his reviews are very fair and honest. He loves the Omega VRT350 HD but admits that it has it's problems. (This is the juicer I returned.) Check out his videos for great information! (He doesn't demo/sell department store brands or ones like Jack Lalanne, though.)

P.S. If you do decide to buy a Breville (of any kind), they sell them at Bed, Bath and Beyond. That store mails out 20% off coupons often to people on their mailing list. My Breville Ikon was $199 and, with my coupon, I got it for $159, which is only $10 more than the one step down model, the Breville Juice Fountain Plus, which is only $149. If you use the 20% off coupon for that one, it would only cost you $119! If they don't have it in the store, have THEM order it for you from their website. They'll apply the coupon (which you can't use online) and they'll waive the shipping fee. FedEx will drop it off for you!

Bed Bath and Beyond is the ONLY store whose mailing list I like being on! Those 20% off coupons just keep coming and their return policy is VERY liberal! When I was ordering my juicer, a guy was there returning an eight year old frying pan! They gave him a new one, no questions asked and no hassle!

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Old 09-28-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Washington County, ME
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Thank you so much for your thoughtful and informative post!

I will study it and make my decisions.

I want to be able to juice veggies, greens, herbs, fruits - and add them to my diet. Would like to get as much out of the food as possible, obv.

If i could add seeds and nuts too it would be awesome - as whole ones sometimes give me digestive problems, as do whole fruits now and then.

My diet now is veggies, fruits, low-carb pasta, rices, beans, wheat breads and cereals, shellfish now and then, and wild salmon on the rare occasion. I dont eat red meat, poultry, or any other flesh foods.

I do make homemade pizzas with different types of cheeses - and sometimes they're made with dairy - that's pretty much the extent of my dairy. I drink almond milk. That's been it for about 1.5 years.

Thank you again..
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Old 09-28-2011, 05:16 PM
 
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I'm trying so hard to learn to like quinoa. I like every other grain except this one. Well, except lavender rice. That stuff is just wrong.

I'm so excited to get my juicer that it's driving me nuts! The guy in the video below is hysterical and makes a Green Pina Colada that sounds incredibly delicious! He's unapologetic about the fruit sugar content and says that this juice isn't there to brag about it's nutritional content but to "set your tongue off on a wild roller coaster ride of ecstasy!"


Power Juice Feast and Cleanse Day #22 - Green Pina Colada Recipe - YouTube

green pina colada sounds yummy
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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Thank you so much for your thoughtful and informative post!

I will study it and make my decisions.

I want to be able to juice veggies, greens, herbs, fruits - and add them to my diet. Would like to get as much out of the food as possible, obv.

If i could add seeds and nuts too it would be awesome - as whole ones sometimes give me digestive problems, as do whole fruits now and then.

My diet now is veggies, fruits, low-carb pasta, rices, beans, wheat breads and cereals, shellfish now and then, and wild salmon on the rare occasion. I dont eat red meat, poultry, or any other flesh foods.

I do make homemade pizzas with different types of cheeses - and sometimes they're made with dairy - that's pretty much the extent of my dairy. I drink almond milk. That's been it for about 1.5 years.

Thank you again..
Anytime, Jelllybean. Nutrition is something I'm passionate about.

Most juicers would be just fine with juicing what you want. The single-auger juicer is better at juicing greens but not by enough to warrant paying a lot more for. As for herbs, I know people juice cilantro, parsley and wheat grass. You can't juice wheat grass in a centrifugal juicer very well, though.

As for the seeds, you'd need the single auger juicer to make nut milks. A centrifugal juicer would do it but it would be a more watery consistency and not as much of a full-bodied flavor as you would get from a single-auger. Personally, I still make my nut/seed milks in my blender and then strain through a fine sieve or bag. To make nut butters, grind grain into flour, or make pastas, you'll need a horizontal single-auger juicer. In that case you'd want something like the Omega 8003/8004/8005 or 8006. There's also the Green Star Juicer, Samson GB9001, and the SoloStar II.

If you really want to go whole hog and get the very, very best juice, you can buy a Norwalk juicer (which is a huge thing and works by hydraulics, for $2,500!)
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: NW GA and SE TN
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Plain & Simple - Thanks for that awesome review! I've wanted a Breville Juice Fountain Elite 1000 for a while now but I can't seem to kill my Champion Juicer, which by the way, has been very good to me. It's a royal pain in the butt to clean, but it's like the Energizer Bunny ... just keeps on going! I've been using it darn near close to every day for five years now.

And THANKS for the tip about BB&B!! VERY GOOD TO KNOW! I may have to drop my Champion off the second floor deck so I can get my Breville already!! LOL!
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Plain & Simple - Thanks for that awesome review! I've wanted a Breville Juice Fountain Elite 1000 for a while now but I can't seem to kill my Champion Juicer, which by the way, has been very good to me. It's a royal pain in the butt to clean, but it's like the Energizer Bunny ... just keeps on going! I've been using it darn near close to every day for five years now.

And THANKS for the tip about BB&B!! VERY GOOD TO KNOW! I may have to drop my Champion off the second floor deck so I can get my Breville already!! LOL!
Hey, nothing wrong with the Champion Juicer at all. You get a good, quality juice from it. And there's nothing wrong with having two juicers. When you get your Breville, you may find that you like the quality of juice from certain fruits or veggies better when it comes from the Champion, so, you'll have your Champion for those.

I remember when the Champion Juicer was THE juicer to have. It's good quality and built to last. It takes a bit longer to juice but it's a fair trade for the quality, full-bodied juice you get (not to mention the quality of the machine)! And the actual parts are easy to clean, even if they might take a little longer.

The Champion Juicer can also make coconut milk, baby food, fruit sauces, nut butters, ice cream, sherbets. No other juicer can do all that. Plus you can grind your own flours with a special attachment. Ground almonds is the perfect alternative for those who need/want to be gluten free.

I say save your money and enjoy your Champion Juicer! If you'd like to have one to be a bit more portable to take with you, go for the Breville BJE200XL 700-Watt Compact Juice Fountain and get it from Bed Bath and Beyond. They have it for the same $99.95 price but, with one of their 20% off coupons, you can get it for $79.96! If you don't have the coupon, go into the store, sign up to receive them and ask them if they have one you can use that day. I betcha anything they let you use the discount!

And, if need be, I've also seen them at Best Buy for the same price. If you have Best Buy's reward program, it can help.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:53 AM
 
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I think i'm gonna go for the Vita-Mix.

They have one on easy-pay on QVC.

I really want it "only" for daily juicing... greens, veggies, and fruits. And i want to get everything from them - including the fiber etc.

I havent ordered it yet, but i have it 'saved' in my bag. Going to check into the Breville you spoke of first.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:21 AM
 
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I think i'm gonna go for the Vita-Mix.

They have one on easy-pay on QVC.

I really want it "only" for daily juicing... greens, veggies, and fruits. And i want to get everything from them - including the fiber etc.

I havent ordered it yet, but i have it 'saved' in my bag. Going to check into the Breville you spoke of first.
WAIT! The VitaMix is a blender, NOT a juicer! You're going to be really disappointed if you buy it for juicing! The point of juicing is to remove the pulp and fiber and give your body the direct concentration of the vitamins and minerals from the juice alone.

You can make smoothies and soups with the VitaMix, but not juice. I used to want a VitaMix for a long time until a friend showed me that you can do the same thing with a good, regular blender at a fraction of the cost.
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