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Old 07-29-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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For the people who are always worried about our lack of (animal) protein, perhaps we can remind about Scott Jurek. Just learned about him. He's an ultramarathoner. He wrote a book called Eat and Run:

Scott Jurek: Eat and Run

His bio:

Scott Jurek: Eat and Run

Wonder what people will say about his ability to compete in extended marathons...on tempeh rather than steak!

 
Old 07-29-2012, 11:27 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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For the people who are always worried about our lack of (animal) protein, perhaps we can remind about Scott Jurek. Just learned about him. He's an ultramarathoner. He wrote a book called Eat and Run:

Scott Jurek: Eat and Run

His bio:

Scott Jurek: Eat and Run

Wonder what people will say about his ability to compete in extended marathons...on tempeh rather than steak!
They blocked me from repping you but I tried.

Why do we need to defend our choices so much on this forum?

I have proof too - not research but two healthy, happy, smart, popular, good looking, athletic kids who have never and will never touch meat.

The kids I was told would have stunted growth, no friends, feel weird, or like out casts and wish that they could eat a hot dog of the Fourth of July.

None of that ever happened. And they do eat hot dogs on July 4th. Just not made out of crap.
 
Old 07-31-2012, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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The only people that worry about the lack of animal protein, are people that aren't informed about nutrition.

But the story of one person doesn't prove anything....
 
Old 07-31-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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For the people who are always worried about our lack of (animal) protein, perhaps we can remind about Scott Jurek. Just learned about him. He's an ultramarathoner. He wrote a book called Eat and Run:

Scott Jurek: Eat and Run

His bio:

Scott Jurek: Eat and Run

Wonder what people will say about his ability to compete in extended marathons...on tempeh rather than steak!

Very interesting link! My proof is how much better I feel, and how my lab results have improved. And I have much more energy as well.

And in the past few years MANY of my friends have switched to a vegan diet, and they all say the same....
 
Old 07-31-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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That is proof that the athlete planned a healthy vegan diet. It isn't proof that vegan diets are healthy. A properly planned vegan diet can absolutely positively be healthy. An improperly planned vegan diet can be dangerous to your health.

That is no different from omnivorous or non-vegan vegetarian diets; improperly executed, they can be disastrous to your health. Properly executed, they can be lifesaving. Moderately executed, they can be sustaining. Vegan diets and vegetarian diets are no different, in that aspect.
 
Old 07-31-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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Gotta love the semantic games.....c'mon....the point of the post is that vegan diets can provide sufficient protein and energy for someone with much higher than normal protein and energy requirements.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 12:56 AM
 
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My husband and I went vegan(also fat free) for health reasons. Yes, we have lost weight and my blood pressure now rivals with a teenager. My husband who was a big meat eater absolutely loves this diet. I, on the other hand, crave cheese terribly. I was told that the craving would go away, but after 4 months it has not.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 05:52 AM
 
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My husband and I went vegan(also fat free) for health reasons. Yes, we have lost weight and my blood pressure now rivals with a teenager. My husband who was a big meat eater absolutely loves this diet. I, on the other hand, crave cheese terribly. I was told that the craving would go away, but after 4 months it has not.
If you have no ethical objection to a less stringent vegetarian diet, you might want to ask your doctor about adding fats in the form of small amounts of dairy daily or weekly back into your diet.

Also, it's generally not healthy to live completely fat-free. Your body needs fats. You can get them from nuts, legumes, vegetable oils of all kinds, etc. etc. if you'd prefer not to add dairy back to your regiment.

You might also want to get your sodium levels checked; sometimes cravings are signals that there's something missing in your diet. Cheese (as opposed to milk) tends to have a good amount of sodium in it. Just like with fats, your body -does- need salt. It makes use of it. If you're also doing a no-sodium, rather than a low-sodium, it's something to consider.

Eliminating entire nutritional categories (such as fats) from the diet is always risky, unless both you and your husband have some really bizarre rare genetic disease that prevents your bodies from processing fats. But that's unlikely in one person, let alone in a married couple who aren't blood related.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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If you went "fat free," you would likely die within a year or two. The consumption of fats is vital.

I have a former body builder friend who went on a fat-free, salt-free diet and, at the age of 25, he nearly died. They had to rush him into the ER while he was having a fit of seizures. The cause, lack of sufficient fats to carry on liver functions and low electrolytes. The cure: bacon, buttered bread, and chocolate cake until his liver and brain began to function properly again. *Note the high levels of saturated fat.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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If you have no ethical objection to a less stringent vegetarian diet, you might want to ask your doctor about adding fats in the form of small amounts of dairy daily or weekly back into your diet.

Also, it's generally not healthy to live completely fat-free. Your body needs fats. You can get them from nuts, legumes, vegetable oils of all kinds, etc. etc. if you'd prefer not to add dairy back to your regiment.

You might also want to get your sodium levels checked; sometimes cravings are signals that there's something missing in your diet. Cheese (as opposed to milk) tends to have a good amount of sodium in it. Just like with fats, your body -does- need salt. It makes use of it. If you're also doing a no-sodium, rather than a low-sodium, it's something to consider.

Eliminating entire nutritional categories (such as fats) from the diet is always risky, unless both you and your husband have some really bizarre rare genetic disease that prevents your bodies from processing fats. But that's unlikely in one person, let alone in a married couple who aren't blood related.
Let me elaborate. We do eat beans,etc, which have some fat naturally. We just don't add fats while cooking. An example would be cooking with vegatable broth instead of oil. We also do not eat nuts due to the high fat content.
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