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Old 02-22-2013, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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My point wasn't about the diet as much the idea. Thats all. Didn't mean to hurt anybodys feelings, just using "opposites" is all.

And it is one meal/snack. I don't know anyone who goes to a concert for the food.
I agree, people do not go to these events for the food, but I also think, a majority, would expect to find a choice if they do want to grab something to eat. Now, if it is advertised in advanced about only vegetarian foods, people will be prepared and can choose to attend or not, unless they have already bought a ticket. Then they have no choice. I still have a huge problem with the entire idea and I don't have any problem with people choosing the diet that suits them.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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I agree, people do not go to these events for the food, but I also think, a majority, would expect to find a choice if they do want to grab something to eat. Now, if it is advertised in advanced about only vegetarian foods, people will be prepared and can choose to attend or not, unless they have already bought a ticket. Then they have no choice. I still have a huge problem with the entire idea and I don't have any problem with people choosing the diet that suits them.
Why the problem? Just curious and like your opinion.

Couldn't it be viewed as a "theme" type concert? If I were a store there, I'd be a bit "mad" but then again it would make me become creative in make'n something "theme" based. McD's could come up with a veggie burger or something, I would think anyway.

An all veg "theme" isn't for me, but I hate to say no to that and then turn around and ask for a meat themed show. Maybe at a rodeo or something have beef as the theme, or a dog show have chinese theme. hahaha just a joke on the dog show theme.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Imagine the hue and cry if a band announced the demand for all products served at one of their venues, to include some kind of animal-based ingredients. Maybe they'd only serve mead for drinks - which is made from honey and therefore not vegan. And no salads that don't already have meat pre-mixed, or mayo-based dressings already mixed into them.

Of course such a thing wouldn't happen, because omnivorous-based restaurants offer undressed salads, and drinks that don't involve animal by-products. So omnivorous-based restaurants -do- provide at least *something* for people who want either, or both. This venue is going to say "sorry, do without" to a pretty significant portion of the fanbase. Not that they'd want to actually BUY something..but the option is now removed.

It sets a dangerous precidence. I'd much rather see Morrissey tell Staples Center that they have to INCLUDE more vegan options, rather than require them to EXCLUDE non-vegan options.

Also just for the record - if I were a Morrissey fan, I would totally love the idea of having a falafel pita with tahini at one of their concerts, if it were available. But telling me I'm not -allowed- to have the typical hotdog if I wanted it - would be good reason for me to take my concert-going dollars elsewhere. It's the principal of the thing, not the product itself.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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I wonder if Morrisey was actually able to give away enough tickets for people to experience this self-righteousness first hand. But, if you actually paid to see this pretensious minimal "talent," you only have yourself to blame for what you're subjected to.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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Looks like he will get vegetarian additions but not meat-free:

"It may not be a victory at all. The venue has since said that although they "respect Morrissey's lifestyle", the meat on their grills will still be sizzling – vegetarianism will simply be an option."

Morrissey has beef with venue over vegetarian menu | Music | guardian.co.uk

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Old 02-22-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Looks like he will get vegetarian additions but not meat-free:

"It may not be a victory at all. The venue has since said that although they "respect Morrissey's lifestyle", the meat on their grills will still be sizzling – vegetarianism will simply be an option."

Morrissey has beef with venue over vegetarian menu | Music | guardian.co.uk
In the same article (which is actually the pont of the article), Morrissey insists that the Staples Center venue is contractually obligated to serve ONLY vegetarian foods, and that they shut McDonalds' down during his visit. Which is pretty silly, really, because Morrissey can't overrule a contract that the Staples Center has with McDonalds'. I'm guessing that McD's already has a binding contract with the arena, permitting them to open and do business for ALL days that the Center is open. Morrissey just doesn't have that kind of clout. And if Staples gives in, then they're opening themselves up for a HUGE lawsuit from McDonalds' Corp.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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I believe a concert facility can serve a variety of items including healthy and veggie options. However, I do not think a performer has a right to ban meat for concert goers, especially when they are the ones spending their hard earned dollars. He is being arrogant and elitist. He can support animal rights, but no one else should be compelled to do so just becasue it is his cause.

If he wants to own a concert venue and do that, then it is OK. I think they should be more respectful to the customers and just tell the musician they will work and make sure acoustics and amenities that help him perform will be done and he will not determine their concessions. The musician needs to keep his ego in check and concentrate on performing. The venue should serve whatever it deems as OK.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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I just read that McDonald's has a contract that they will be open during performances. It is one thing to have an opinion and another to think you have the right to decide for everyone else. Paul McCartney is vegetarian, but would never do that. He concentrates on his PERFORMANCE and Morrissey should do the same. McCartney has more class. Morrissey should learn from his example.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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A welcome change! Albert Einstein was also one that agreed with a meatless diet.
Albert Einstein was not a vegetarian.

Also, it's a bit of a stretch to even use a douche like Morrissey and Einstein in the same sentence let alone insinuate that they are/were like minded. Morrisey is nothing more than a marginal performer who uses controversy like this in a feeble attempt to remain relevant. He is so self-absorbed that he doesn't even realize how ridiculous he looks insisting that his "morals" somehow trump the desires of paying customers or the legal and binding agreements made long before his circus came to town and will be in existence long after it leaves.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Why the problem? Just curious and like your opinion.

Couldn't it be viewed as a "theme" type concert? If I were a store there, I'd be a bit "mad" but then again it would make me become creative in make'n something "theme" based. McD's could come up with a veggie burger or something, I would think anyway.

An all veg "theme" isn't for me, but I hate to say no to that and then turn around and ask for a meat themed show. Maybe at a rodeo or something have beef as the theme, or a dog show have chinese theme. hahaha just a joke on the dog show theme.
If it is advertised as a "theme" concert and everyone who buys tickets know in advance there will be nothing served that isn't vegetarian that is one thing, but if people buy tickets without the Vegetarian aspect being known, they have every right to be furious and unless, the concert was booked as a Veggie Theme, I do not think the star has a right to dictate what can be sold.This would be like the Osmonds demanding, if they were intertaining in showroom in Vegas, no coffee or alcolhol be served.
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