Why People are so against Veganism? (junk food, food, meat, animal)

[jencam]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

We aren't insisting you feel guilty. The more interesting question is, why would a meat-eater come to a vegan forum to talk about how vegans insist omnivores feel guilty about anything? Seems to me you are seeking us out to harass us.

We aren't in any meat-lover forums harassing you. You are here. I think that's key here. If you don't want to argue with vegans, don't come to the vegan forum. Sorry, but....duh.

I never intended to come into the Vegan forum. It's not a special sanctum. This title was intriguing. You won't see me in discussions for and with Vegans only.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by jencam

and depending on the region, they would starve if they found nothing to hunt, or were unsuccessful.

Trying to work out your point here. So, if hunter-gatherers were in a region where there was no food, they would rather starve than eat plants?

Or they would be too stupid to move somewhere else where there were more plants and maybe some animals to hunt?

Really trying to figure out if there's any logic here at all.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by jencam

I never intended to come into the Vegan forum. It's not a special sanctum. This title was intriguing. You won't see me in discussions for and with Vegans only.

So, because you didn't intend to come into the vegan forum to harass vegans, that means you weren't harassing vegans in the forum that you came into, when you started harassing vegans in their forum?

Interesting defense.

Kind of like saying, "Your Honor, I never intended to go into the bar where I got into a bar fight, therefore, I can't be guilty of being in a bar fight in a place I never intended to go into before I went into it."

[jencam]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

Trying to work out your point here. So, if hunter-gatherers were in a region where there was no food, they would rather starve than eat plants?

Or they would be too stupid to move somewhere else where there were more plants and maybe some animals to hunt?

Really trying to figure out if there's any logic here at all.

IDK. Not enough protein and fat.

[jencam]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

So, because you didn't intend to come into the vegan forum to harass vegans, that means you weren't harassing vegans in the forum that you came into, when you started harassing vegans in their forum?

Interesting defense.

Kind of like saying, "Your Honor, I never intended to go into the bar where I got into a bar fight, therefore, I can't be guilty of being in a bar fight in a place I never intended to go into before I went into it."

OK so who was intended to answer the question by the OP?

[jencam]

Originally Posted by SoLikeable

Made my mom watch " What the health". The movie talks about the dangers of eating animal products. Short term and long. Heart disease, diabetes, cancer, osteoporosis. even with out the health issues the toll on the earth is unimaginable. I like this movie because it breaks it down with the facts, doctors, nutritionist and people who were actually going through these diseases. I work at a grocery store and I see people spend $100 or more on junk food and call it " necessity". And sometimes Ill ask " Where are the fruits and vegetables?" or " Wheres the real food?, this stuffs bad for you!". Deep down they know its bad but people do it ANYWAY! one lady even replied " Well.. I'm gonna die someday" as if that justifies living on junk 24 hours a day. The truth is people want to be lied to. They don't want someone telling them that they're favorite food could lead to an untimely death. After my mom saw the documentary she buys a fryer ( to fry foods) a week later. And its just proof that most are so brainwashed by the media so much that even when the truth is revealed they won't accept it. How can we change the world if the world doesn't want to be changed?

I have an obese Vegan friend. She says she cannot help it because so many places the only veggies they offer are fried. Vegans lie to themselves too.

[Dogboa]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

We aren't insisting you feel guilty. The more interesting question is, why would a meat-eater come to a vegan forum to talk about how vegans insist omnivores feel guilty about anything? Seems to me you are seeking us out to harass us.

We aren't in any meat-lover forums harassing you. You are here. I think that's key here. If you don't want to argue with vegans, don't come to the vegan forum. Sorry, but....duh.

I've already explained that the OP's thread title is why I came here.

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by jencam

IDK. Not enough protein and fat.

Why not? There is sufficient protein in plants, and fat in many of them. Definitely fat in seeds and grains.

If you ate a plant-only diet, you would survive, but if you ate a protein-only diet (with little or no fat) you would eventually die as a result.

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by jencam

I have an obese Vegan friend. She says she cannot help it because so many places the only veggies they offer are fried. Vegans lie to themselves too.

There is a joke thing/meme out there somewhere about people who go veg eating too many french fries in the beginning.

Salad and french fries makes a pretty good dinner.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by jencam

IDK.

Exactly.