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Old 02-19-2020, 06:50 AM
 
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No oil internet vegan guru docs say no oil period. They keep referring to some old FMD measurement test someone did on 11 people 2 decades ago. Who to believe?
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:15 PM
 
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Pure coconut oil seems to have a lot of benefits. But again in moderation, not like some pro coconut Docs suggest. They suggest eating tea spoon of coconut oil every morning, afternoon and evening, and keep cooking with coconut oil.

I have been vegetarian all my life, never ate meat. Of late, I am trying to be Vegan, cut off milk. But one think I am not able to get rid of is, Costco Greek Yogurt. Thats because, it is low cal, 0 fat and high protein food, and I love the taste. Mainly, I use it for its Protein.

Also, I am going raw vegan. Trying to eat most of the things raw (uncooked). Going well so far. Feeling better!

I do use a spoon of coconut oil and a spoon of Ghee (clarified butter), per day. Its good for joints.

And I consume LOTs of nuts (almonds, walnuts and peanuts).
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:23 PM
 
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I have been doing WFPB no oil for about 6 weeks. I saute in water or veg broth. I don't miss the oil at all, not even on my potatoes which used to always have (vegan) butter on them. I make oil free hummus, oil free everything. I am basically doing high carb, low fat. I'm down 14 pounds.
I did that for a couple of months, and am now back with moderate olive oil to help my body absorb lycopene and beta-carotene. And I no longer suffer from constipation.
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:08 PM
 
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I did that for a couple of months, and am now back with moderate olive oil to help my body absorb lycopene and beta-carotene. And I no longer suffer from constipation.
I still get fat, just not from oil. I get it from the whole food itself. By the time it becomes oil it has been processed and all of the good stuff has been stripped away. I'd rather eat olives than just the oil

I also get fats from nuts and seeds, tofu, etc.
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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I still get fat, just not from oil. I get it from the whole food itself. By the time it becomes oil it has been processed and all of the good stuff has been stripped away. I'd rather eat olives than just the oil

I also get fats from nuts and seeds, tofu, etc.
For oils like olive or peanut, the only processing is merely crushing or grinding. No real stripping away.
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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"Olive oil is not a whole food—it is a fattening, low-nutrient, processed food, consisting of 100% fat. ... When fats are ingested in the form of extracted oils, they are rapidly and efficiently absorbed by the body and immediately converted into body fat"

https://www.drfuhrman.com/elearning/...-a-health-food


"How is it that we know that processed sugars are junk foods, yet we’ve allowed ourselves to be convinced that certain oils are somehow good for us? Oil follows essentially the same model as processed sugar, which is also pressed from plants. Think about what oil is: fat—and nothing but fat. All the nutrients, including protein, carbohydrates, vitamins, minerals, fiber, and water, have been thrown away. Oil of any kind has more calories per gram than any other food we know. And without any fiber or water in it, oil lacks the bulk to convey to your senses how many calories you have eaten; this virtually guarantees you will consume more calories at the meal than you need. So we ask you: Why would you waste calories on something that has no nutrients in it other than fat? And why would anyone believe that highly concentrated fat is healthy?"

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Old 02-19-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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"Olive oil is not a whole food—it is a fattening, low-nutrient, processed food, consisting of 100% fat. ... When fats are ingested in the form of extracted oils, they are rapidly and efficiently absorbed by the body and immediately converted into body fat"

https://www.drfuhrman.com/elearning/...-a-health-food


"How is it that we know that processed sugars are junk foods, yet we’ve allowed ourselves to be convinced that certain oils are somehow good for us? Oil follows essentially the same model as processed sugar, which is also pressed from plants. Think about what oil is: fat—and nothing but fat. All the nutrients, including protein, carbohydrates, vitamins, minerals, fiber, and water, have been thrown away. Oil of any kind has more calories per gram than any other food we know. And without any fiber or water in it, oil lacks the bulk to convey to your senses how many calories you have eaten; this virtually guarantees you will consume more calories at the meal than you need. So we ask you: Why would you waste calories on something that has no nutrients in it other than fat? And why would anyone believe that highly concentrated fat is healthy?"

https://www.forksoverknives.com/what...SqMY#gs.wtah9c
The human body is very smart. It wants to survive and to live as long and as healthy as possible. It also stores as much fat as possible. If fat was bad, it wouldn't store any. Things only go wrong when people don't know what to do with this fat.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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Processed chemically extracted oils are bad. Hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils especially bad. Cold pressed unfiltered oils are fine. People way overdo the carbs while being scared silly of all fats. High carb, low fat diet is the myth that just wont die.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:22 PM
 
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ALL liquid oils are bad news. McDougall, Esslystyn, Barnard, etc. describe why very well.
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Old 02-28-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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I cook with either extra virgin olive oil or avocado oil (which is good for high-heat). I also take a tablespoon of Udo's 3-6-9 Oil every day. It provides me with all the necessary Omegas I need.
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