Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
So, like I said, always research where your food comes from, anything you eat...
I think most people are just too danged lazy to do that. Plus, people are barraged with PR campaigns & misleading info from lobbyists and industry "specialists."
It takes some effort and an equal amount of discernment to filter through the mass of information that we are bombarded with. Most people would rather find one or two internet links and call it good. Unfortunately, some of those links/info is exactly what people want to hear - "it's alright, nothing's wrong, animals [and anything else that's edible] are well-taken care of and everybody is safe." And, anyone who says differently is an extremist and has an "agenda."
Which is precisely what you would be labeled in court if you chose to speak your mind. And like you said, you simply don't have the money to battle it out.
Absolutely right. There is a reason cows come into heat every 18 days. Most farmers let their cows get pregnant to sustain the herd. The place where I get my (raw) milk does them on a two year cycle. Extra colostrum is kept and frozen and sold to other breeders when they are running short.
For eggs, do NOT buy organic. They are USDA inspected "factory" produced just like non-organic. Find a local farmer who has free range chickens if you want rich, tasty, healthy eggs.
I would ask, "why can't we raise our own chicken in our own backyard?" That will give us free-range chicken-born eggs daily.
My ex-husband became a vegetarian twenty years ago. He never had perfect health since. Now, he has heart problem, and he lost a lot of hair. Before he became a vegetarian, he had a full head of jet-back hair. Both his parents have thick dark hair, so it is not genetic.
Back to vegetarian recipes...
The Essential Vegetarian is a really good cook book, it has shopping lists and somewhat easy recipes. You can also get a good veg cookbook and they will usually give you vegan options.
You can also go peruse a book store and just look in the veggie cook book section for a book that appeals to you. There are some really good beginner books (including for teens) that will give you good health tips (getting correct protein) and simple recipes.
Remember that if you cook with tofu it will taste like what you flavor it with, easy to get used to the texture if you use firm or extra firm.
Start slow, if you start with difficult recipes you may get bored...fast. Remember that if you do not have good protein you will eat more before you get full.
Your body will thank you...Your skin will be lovely!
I wasn't really going to make a comment in this area just wondered in just found out a friend is a huge peta person.
Maybe I grewup in a different world or different era. I have worked for and egg factory and never saw any cruelty what so ever. As a matter of fact the people that worked there complained if anything bad happened and made sure there was none.I didn't work there long. I know of a girl whom worked on a diary farm and she is the type that would spoil them and talk to them. They would give more milk while she when she was working as a matter of fact. I have found this to be true of dairy cows the better you treat them the more they give. My father was a hunter and he wasn't a cruel person to animals or humans. My grandfather on my mom's side raised pigs and they had huge pens for their pigs and even use to play with them and give them bathes and everthing.
Alot of the cruelty that I hear about and the films yes I have seen them from time to time bother me alot. Not in the way that most view it tho. They bother me in the way that I have never seen such treatment of animals and have been around the proccess quite a few times in my life time.
Just had to say something about it, hope I didn't step on anyones toes so to speak.
It also bothers me as I see land disappearing and houses going up where orange tree's or cows use to be. When I think of all the animals not just cows that lived on the land. Not only do cows live there, there are deer, pigs, squirrels, rabbits and I'm sure many more. Even in an orange grove you know there are lots of small animals or even pigs and deer that lived there also.
I guess I just see things in a different light being on the other side of the fence and know how careing most are. I hate seeing everyone thinking that everyone is like what you hear or see. They honestly are not like that most are very caring people. I know to be a fact.
Just wanted to add that the cows gave more milk for her yes but no the cows were not being treat mean. She just has one of those soothing voices that will calm. All the cows had names already and she knew each one by name. The dairy farm always produced alot but got more with her. Like I said the better you treat animals cows chickens or which ever animal it is you get better results from humane and decent treatment.
I know some people can be mean yes I use to date a guy whom I thought was mean to animals but for the most part I have not seen such things. Most people are kind to animals even if they are for production that is the norm that I have seen.
Last edited by Starlady01; 01-06-2010 at 04:53 AM..
As far as milk, I have started consuming almond milk. It is absolutely delicious! If you still desire meat, have you considered Kosher foods?
kosher killing of animals is the same or worse than "conventional" slaughterhouse practices. there is no humane way to consume meat. check out "a story of ham" in this blog to get a description of the life of a pig in a factory farm to see an example of why buying meat is just like making a donation to animal cruelty:
No they don't. A cow can give milk for quite some time in between calves. When I was growing up, our cows certainly were not bred constantly. More like every two or three years, and it wasn't because they quit giving milk, it was because the quality eventually goes down. Hey, just like those other mammals -- humans!
One could argue that it's cruelty to NOT breed the cow every year, because in the wild, that's what they'd be doing.
Regardless how often cows breed the male calves are STILL killed for veal (http://www.mercyforanimals.org/dairy_and_veal.asp - broken link).
One could argue that it's cruelty to NOT breed the cow every year, because in the wild, that's what they'd be doing.
There are no cows in the wild.
Cows only exist because humans eat them.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
