Will you buy Xbox Scorpio or PS4 Neo? (Wii, Nintendo, console)

[Nepenthe]

PS4 Neo is said to be about twice as fast as PS4 and due late this year. Xbox Scorpio is rumored to be about four times as fast as Xbox one and due mid to late 2017. Of course we won't know for certain until they come out.

Will you be replacing your PS4 or Xbox One? Or purchasing these anew?

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I bought a used PS4 for the purpose of playing PSVR. If PS4 Neo has real advantages for PSVR usage over the old vanilla PS4, I'll definitely pick it up.

[Phyxius]

I ignore rumors. Either it is twice as fast or four times as fast or it isn't. Not interested in a "maybe" or "it might be".


Now that I think about it, Nintendo made the right call not to get into specs. Look how Sony and Microsoft went all out and and it still wasn't enough. Nintendo is abandoning the Wii brand, while Sony and Microsoft are upgrading their respective consoles.

[Nepenthe]

Originally Posted by Phyxius

I ignore rumors. Either it is twice as fast or four times as fast or it isn't. Not interested in a "maybe" or "it might be".

So...

Do you have a PS4? Would you replace it with a PS4 Neo this autumn if that were 2x faster or 4x faster than the old PS4?

Do you have an Xbox One? Would you replace it with an Xbox Scorpio next autumn if that were 2x faster or 4x faster than the old Xbox One.

Or are you saying you just want to wait and see the results / benchmarks (such as what Digital Foundry does)?

Specs aren't everything, but they do have some importance.

[Phyxius]

I believe it when I see it.

[Nepenthe]

Here's the latest information based on what we know about Polaris.

Scorpio over four and a half times as fast as Xbox One. Neo about 2.25 times as fast as PS4.

So it goes from the PS side being 40% faster to the X side being 45% faster (yes, the new Xbox will likely be faster than the new Playstation4).

[Grizzmeister]

Originally Posted by Nepenthe

PS4 Neo is said to be about twice as fast as PS4 and due late this year. Xbox Scorpio is rumored to be about four times as fast as Xbox one and due mid to late 2017. Of course we won't know for certain until they come out.

Will you be replacing your PS4 or Xbox One? Or purchasing these anew?

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I bought a used PS4 for the purpose of playing PSVR. If PS4 Neo has real advantages for PSVR usage over the old vanilla PS4, I'll definitely pick it up.

I'll probably finally get around to building a high-end gaming PC. Especially now that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is so affordable.

[Nepenthe]

Originally Posted by Grizzmeister

I'll probably finally get around to building a high-end gaming PC. Especially now that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is so affordable.

Cool. I built a 6700K, 980Ti, 16 GBs, Windows 10, 850 Evo SSD system for about $1700 last December. It's kind of overkill for what I use it for (HTC Vive and Starcraft II).

AMD also announced a 5.5 TFLOPS (about as fast as the 980Ti) card for $199 last night.

Intel's high-end CPU plans were leaked, though it's unclear if they'll have a real advantage over the 4790K and 6700K in actual games.

[Grizzmeister]

AMD's New Radeon RX 480 Is VR-Ready For $200

This makes more sense than an upgraded PS4 or XB1, in my humble opinion.

[Nepenthe]

Well, the reason there will be a new PS4 and Xbox is because of AMD. Since they're about 1/10th as large as Nvidia, they had to start converting all facilities over to the all-new finfet fabrication process (Polaris). Die shrinks (as they'd done in the past with the "thin" versions) weren't available to Sony and MS.

So if they wanted to keep producing PSs and Xboxs they had to adopt the new architecture, which would have meant new hardware anyway. So instead of trying to replicate the exact characteristics of the old PS4 and Xbox One (which would have been difficult), they've opted to take advantage of the new silicon and produce faster GPUs, while still allowing future games to run on the old GPUs. Sony was on top of this and it appears they will have product ready in time. Microsoft may have some time where they can't produce new Xbox Ones but they may have raw chips or full product in inventory to cover.

What would really be nice is if the PS4 and Xbox One had been built in a modular fashion, so owners could upgrade to the new GPU.

Anyway, that new 5.5 TFLOPS Polaris chip is great. Quite energy and space efficient too. Means a lot of desktop PCs are $200 from being VR-ready.

[Nepenthe]

On another note here's some information on the Nintendo NX which sounds like it'll get a form of VR support too: Report: Nintendo NX to Be VR Compatible

That makes all three -- PS4/Neo with PSVR, Xbox Scorpio with Oculus Rift, and Nintendo NX with whatever they've got brewing now...