12-08-2006, 03:00 PM
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Hear Hear carolinajack, on racisim
I grew up in a suburb of Chicago "don't play with those kids, they are Italian and own a bar" "Blacks", we won't even go there.
Thank God I grew up without the same thinking as my grandpa.
As far as southerners, I had a girlfriend in high school who's family was from Alabama. She spent the summer there one year. I had a wedding to go to in Georgia so left a few days early to go visit. I pulled in to the house at 11:30 pm. Her aunt looked at me and said you must be hungry, Let me fix you a snack. Best steak, potatos, gravy, the works I ever had.
If there really is anything to this north south thing, from my experiances as a northerner I'll take the south any day. Nothing but warm helpful folk from what I've seen in 30 years of traveling down there.
12-08-2006, 03:20 PM
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Me too, I worked for a guy who was in the white citizen council and I am black. He was the most welcoming person to me at the job and even let me house sit for him and have the run of his house.
I have never had that welcoming experience up North in my 17 years up here.
even racists back home are hospitable
12-10-2006, 09:34 AM
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Mike from back east
I think people are friendly most everywhere....especially if you lead off with a smile and a cheery hello. I do this everywhere and never have any issues with anyone. We were in NYC, Manhattan, to see the Macy's Parade, spent four days there, and I gotta tell you, the New Yorkers are fabulous, and so is their city, we'd go back in a heartbeat.
When I walk into a fast food joint, or anywhere, I start with a smile, a hello, and "how are you" before taking care of business -- you'd be amazed how that changes people for the positive.
99% of this North-South stuff is fluff and meaningless, same for all the sports rivalries, they make the games fun. Forget the few drunks who end up acting badly at games.
s/Mike
I agree absolutely - wish you were still in Va - folks like you make the world a much nicer place. Trust me - out here where I am in Europe, you could lay in the street (I've got proof) before someone pitched in to help - the Sound of Music is just a movie. Sure do appreciate you "strangers" out there who have been so willing to help those of us in transition. Thank you again!
12-14-2006, 01:09 PM
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admittedly, i do not like Yankees(though I married one) ha ha. I dont like theirs views and values and arrogance and think they can buy anything and anyone at the detriment of the entire country.
I may not like them however, they are Americans and I dont hate them and they are welcomed to my south as long as they are respectful of my values as they would want me to be of theirs if I moved up there.
01-24-2007, 09:18 AM
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I Was born and raised in georgia and i think that all northerners should repect southerners. Many great things originated in the south for example Rock'n'Roll
I visited NYC last month and went to a place in harlem that carrys soul food,or southern food and it was pretty good. Almost like american chinese food it tasted some what like the real thing but it was a little yankeefied the cornbread was to dry and the sweet tea well it was not sweet. Oh yea and they had no grits come on if you claim you carry southern food you have to carry grits
01-24-2007, 09:29 AM
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What I've noticed as a native NYer with 5 years in VA...
Southerners can't seem to shut up about being Southern.
I don't refer to myself as "northern" or a "New Yorker" unless people ask me about not wearing a coat when it's 50 degrees.
Maybe I'm the exception to the rule.
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01-24-2007, 10:10 AM
Location: Apex, NC
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My mother was born on Burnt Church indian reserve in N.B. Canada, my father was a Vermont farmer of French and Indian descent. I don't feel white, nor do I feel indian. I don't feel particularly northern or southern either.
I was born in CT, grew up in VT, lived in FL for a spell, and have lived in VA since 2004. I'm pretty good fun to be around so I'm treated practically like kin by the folks in my south central Virginia town of Boones Mill, from the local general store merchants to the Garst family at Southern States, and everyone in between. I wonder if it's just the rare uptight jerk - who just happens to be from up north - that becomes the "flag bearer of northern ideology" to a small number of southern folks they rub shoulders with.
I really don't get that there is much of a difference between folks from the north or the south, truly. But I do see that there is more of a difference between city folk and country folk. Which may help explain things, given that 3 out of 4 northerners who move south are probably city folk looking to escape the climate and the taxes. And also in their late 50s or early 60s, which means they're pretty much set in their ways. I grew up in the city of Burlington, Vermont, but as an adult I lived for six years in the small town of Orwell, VT. The farmers and country folks living in Orwell had much more in common with the farmers and country folks living in Boones Mill, Virginia then they had with the city folks in Burlington.
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10-17-2009, 01:19 PM
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I am finding after 2 yrs. in NC a lot of southerner's are still fighting the Cival War ! Sad....
10-17-2009, 07:55 PM
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Some examples of what we deal with in the South - which leaves a bad taste for Northerners in some:
1) I was at the checkout counter at a local grocery store, when a well-dressed family came to wait in line behind me. They had 2 very pretty teenaged-girls and were from somewhere in NY or NJ by the accent. Both girls were on cell phones talking loudly to their friends back home about the "hicks', "backwards people", "trailer trash", "lack of taste in clothes", etc. that they were seeing here. I turned to them and smiled and said to the parents, "It sounds like your girls really miss home". They seemed embarrassed that everyone could hear their rude girls, but did not stop them. It got worse, when I was getting ready to leave and heard one of them say LOUDLY, "...and you should see this kid about to ring us up. I doubt he's EVER seen a dermatologist or dentist in his life!" Then she laughed. It was horrible behavior! As I was pulling out of the parking lot, I saw them getting into an SUV with New York plates. I rolled down my window, smiled, and said, "Enjoy your trip home."
2) Last week, down at the historic Market area of downtown Charleston, I overheard a couple talking about how people of the South obviously don't know anything about dieting or physical fitness and also how we don't know how to talk here, probably because of the poor quality of education. They laughed at this then commented on how we need some educated Northerners to come down here to shape things up.
3) I took my cousins on a horse and carriage tour of downtown and some tourist from Mass. were also in our carriage. As the tour guide told about the old homes and historical events and people, these people kept arguing with him about how no one wants to hear that stuff anymore because the Civil War is over.....that he should be ashamed that he lives in a city where blacks were sold at auctions and kept as slaves.....that they were so proud to be living in Mass. where there was "NO discrimintation or racism".....etc. There happened to be a black couple in the carriage too, and they asked these people to please be quiet because they paid for a historial tour and that they were ruining it. The loud tourists told the black couple that they were trying to stick up for their rights and that they shouldn't have to listen to this stuff. We also told these people they were ruining our tour and asked why on earth they paid to come on such a tour, knowing it was about the history of Charleston. They said they just wanted to prove a point, then asked to be let off early. The rest of us applauded when they got off.
These examples are just a drop in the bucket of the discrimintation against Southerners I have witnessed in my 26 years here. All Northerners are not like this, but when you see it and hear it on a regular basis, you do tend to get a bit defensive. I do not understand why, for the life of me, that someone would spend their hard-earned money to travel to a place they ridicule, despise, and/or look down upon??? I don't get it.
10-19-2009, 02:20 PM
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Northerners and Southerners are Americans right? - Heck Yeah You're Right
spiritwalker, I have had similar experiences as a Northerner (NJ) visiting and living in the 'South' (VA), although I don't know how "South" VA really is at this point. Anyway, one time while taking a horse carriage tour in Charleston, South Carolina, several people in the wagon whispered "Yankees" (about my family and I) and the tour guide kept talking about "The War of Northern Aggression." My daughter didn't know what they were talking about so I had to explain things.
Similarly, I grew up in South Jersey which many people say . . . is like the South (it is NOT like North or Central Jersey). So I hear the same kind of nonsense in my home state.
To make a long story short, I love living in VA. There are positives and negatives about North and South but one can say that about anywhere. Oh, BTW, I lived in northern VA for many years and do not feel that the suburbs are for me; my family and I are moving west to VA into the Shenandoah Valley. So maybe my South Jersey hick personality will be more suited to the mountain hick life in western VA (just kidding, although I do see myself as part-hick regardless of where I live, how many degrees I have, or how I earn).
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)