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Old 12-11-2020, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Do you have a link that these actual renamings are occurring especially the park? When I looked it up I saw where civic group had submitted the recommendation and their reason why but no confirmation or is that all that's happened a group is proposing a name change?

https://www.arlnow.com/2020/12/08/he...-lived-nearby/


"Arlington’s Park and Recreation Commission is recommending Henry Clay Park be renamed Zitkala-Ša Park,..."
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Old 12-11-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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and now that riff raff is moving all over the beautiful state of Virginia and North Carolina to spread their communist gospel "we believe in science, black lives matter, gays should marry, don't question anything". How cringy is that? Like some people fall for whatever dogma their political party puts out without thinking independently for themselves.

If you ever find yourself on board 100% with a political party, then you are an unthinking pawn. You cluster too much. Start observing the B.S.
So....to confirm, you don't believe in science? you don't think Black lives matter? and you don't think the lgbtq+ community should be treated as equal? and these topics make you cringe....
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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So....to confirm, you don't believe in science? you don't think Black lives matter? and you don't think the lgbtq+ community should be treated as equal? and these topics make you cringe....
I don't *believe* in anything. I validate with experience, study and wisdom.

Frontier science is never consensus-based "you must trust us". Don't you remember the inquisition? Galileo? Einstein, even?

Now as far as gays are concerned -- I'm sure they're fine as individuals but I do not champion them marrying.
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't *believe* in anything. I validate with experience, study and wisdom.

Frontier science is never consensus-based "you must trust us". Don't you remember the inquisition?
so share with us your stance on the above topics... science, black lives, and the lgbtq+ community based on your experience, personal study and wisdom and why they make you cringe.
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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so share with us your stance on the above topics... science, black lives, and the lgbtq+ community based on your experience, personal study and wisdom.
I grew up in a conservative Iranian household. Do you need a greater explanation? Are you now anti-immigrant?
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:25 AM
 
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I grew up in a conservative Iranian household. Do you need a greater explanation? Are you now anti-immigrant?
I'm not sure what that means... can one not develop and/or changes their beliefs as they experience the world for themselves? Can't someone who grew up in a liberal Iranian household now hold conservative views? If you grew up in a conservative Iranian household, does that automatically make one challenge science? Does the moon not have an effect on the planet as science has proven. Can we not predict the weather, or do we not travel via planes, or can we not treat certain ailments which all derived from scientific achievements?

And the country is made up of immigrants from all over the world thus I am not Anti-Immigrant or Anti-America.
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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I'm not sure what that means... can one not develop and/or changes their beliefs as they experience the world for themselves? Can't someone who grew up in a liberal Iranian household now hold conservative views?

And the country is made up of immigrants from all over the world thus I am not Anti-Immigrant/America.
The point is, most immigrants to this country come here to make a better life for themselves. They come to live in a prosperous capitalist country, not to live under totalitarian socialism. They look up to explorers like Columbus and American figures of strength and freedom. They hate seeing these statues toppled.

The causes you support are Marxist to their core. Black Lives Matter is a Marxist organization, go listen to their founders speak on being trained as ideological Marxists. Why would immigrants fleeing authoritarian and communist regimes want to support these causes?
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:37 AM
 
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The point is, most immigrants to this country come here to make a better life for themselves. They come to live in a prosperous capitalist country, not to live under totalitarian socialism. They look up to explorers like Columbus and American figures of strength and freedom. They hate seeing these statues toppled.

The causes you support are Marxist to their core. Black Lives Matter is a Marxist organization, go listen to their founders speak on being trained as ideological Marxists. Why would immigrants fleeing authoritarian and communist regimes want to support these causes?
They chose to come to a dynamic country that is ever evolving where they have a vote just like everyone else. You are allowed your opinion but the majority wins and the majority of Virginians and Americans voted is contrast to you and many of them are immigrants just like you... that's how it works. Oddly for you, the majority of voters that align with your views are not immigrants. Anyone that chose to come here also has the choice to leave.. it's rather simple.
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Old 12-11-2020, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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Oddly for you, the majority of voters that align with your views are not immigrants. Anyone that chose to come here also has the choice to leave.. it's rather simple.
Phew...good thing those Muslims coming over here by the boatload all support gay rights then, huh? Wouldn't want a conflict you know...

Who said I was an immigrant? I'm not. But I am pro-immigrant -- hence why I support the Columbus statues and stand against being a victim.
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Old 12-11-2020, 11:10 AM
 
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Phew...good thing those Muslims coming over here by the boatload all support gay rights then, huh? Wouldn't want a conflict you know...

Who said I was an immigrant? I'm not. But I am pro-immigrant -- hence why I support the Columbus statues and stand against being a victim.
Where do you get your information from? Just like how you thought the Richmond area votes conservative, you're wrong again. Most immigrants do not align with the republican party...

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...us/immigrants/
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...r-registration
https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-t...-biden-georgia

And a majority of Muslim Americans vote blue. A majority of them went for Clinton and Biden.

https://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/...-social-views/
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