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Old 07-17-2021, 08:18 PM
 
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I lived in NOVA for 42 years. No thanks on your comment. Moving away was the best thing I could have done for my sanity. When you hear that people are nicer in the country it is not just talk. It's very true. lower COL, less traffic and so on. While I occasionally miss some of the restaurants I do not miss the arrogance of the entitled people who populate NOVA.
Really?

I like people in the countryside but most people in NoVA are also considerate. We know we live jammed together in an area with people from different ethicities, backgrounds, religions and politics. Really, we share many of the same concerns such as crime, taxes, traffic, school quality, etc.. There are a few $%@# around of course, but those can be found any/everywhere.
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Old 07-18-2021, 08:01 AM
 
Location: outlying Richmond, Va.
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Definitely want Virginia to become more progressive and less religious.
Maryland is a shining beacon compared to NC and TN. Those two states are regressing on social issues and that’s just unacceptable to me in 2021.

That's fair, it's your preferred outcome, but I still don't get how you can say Maryland is doing better on social issues than Virginia or North Carolina, for instance.



Take a look at Baltimore City. It's a terrible city to live in if you're lower income and Black. Not just crime but in lack of opportunity due to businesses being forced out by poor economic planning. How are conditions improving there for the residents? Wealth inequality is extreme there. Not to mention the other predominately black area in Maryland, Prince Georges County, having significantly lower property values than nearby Montgomery County. That affects generational wealth transfer.


Maryland is extremely stratified, more so than Virginia or North Carolina or Tennessee. I would not want to live there and population exodus out of their only major city corroborates this.


Virginia should not want to become like Maryland -- Maryland can't even win in the D.C. metro region, that goes to Northern Virginia.
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Old 07-18-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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Definitely want Virginia to become more progressive and less religious.
Maryland is a shining beacon compared to NC and TN. Those two states are regressing on social issues and that’s just unacceptable to me in 2021.
TN resident here. While it feels like Nashville and many other areas of the state are either becoming more liberal or less conservative socially, the state government is desperately trying to push back on it. It's embarrassing.

While the state has hospitals closing left and right and a gun problem that is getting out of control, our state government focused an entire legislative session on making it easier for loonies and criminals to carry guns anywhere they want and are obsessed with dictating who uses which bathroom... and recently, we've made the news for all the wrong reasons with our governor firing a top public health official simply for promoting a life-saving and pandemic-ending vaccine.

I doubt Virginia wants to go the pathway of the loopy TN GOP. While we have a lot of great things going for us economically in the state at the moment, much of this growth is centered around Nashville... which has almost always been governed by Democrats.

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Old 07-18-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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I love Colonial Williamsburg, so I guess East?
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Old 07-19-2021, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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"Take a look at Baltimore City. It's a terrible city to live in if you're lower income and Black." News flash: it doesn't matter where you live if you happen to fit that description.

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Old 07-19-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Baltimore is one of the most gentrified cities.

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D.C. is number 1 with blacks now a minority.

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Old 07-19-2021, 05:43 PM
 
Location: outlying Richmond, Va.
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Baltimore is one of the most gentrified cities.

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D.C. is number 1 with blacks now a minority.

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I'm scratching my head trying to understand this non-sequitur. Are you implying that Baltimore is only losing it's black population and therefore not doing as bad as it seems on paper?

To be a "shining beacon" it should be looking after all of it's residents, providing actual opportunity by not "forcing" businesses to go elsewhere. So if Blacks are leaving in greater numbers that still tells me something is very wrong there to cause them all to leave. So much for being progressive!
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:02 PM
 
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DC population overall and black population are both growing. The gentrification is leading to more affluent families moving in.

To be a shining beacon, it should attract new residents and businesses which is the goal of gentrification.

Recent long-term trend has been to disperse housing the poor with subsidiized rent vouchers to avoid ghettos and projects.

The cities will change. There are lot of examples of run-down towns in poor rural areas where the one industry has abandoned it.
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Old 07-20-2021, 08:59 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I think VA is in a fairly good position.

It's somewhat socially liberal, but still moderate taxes and business friendly. I'm pro marijuana. I have no issues with people owning firearms with reasonable restrictions. I also don't think it should be "anything goes" with guns. I want some guardrails on capitalism to help moderate the business cycle.
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Town of Herndon/DC Metro
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I think VA is in a fairly good position.

It's somewhat socially liberal, but still moderate taxes and business friendly. I'm pro marijuana. I have no issues with people owning firearms with reasonable restrictions. I also don't think it should be "anything goes" with guns. I want some guardrails on capitalism to help moderate the business cycle.
There arent enough Libertarians to keep Virginia as is. The state is in a rapid flux towards Progressive. This is just a middle stage for the Commonwealth towards a deeper blue on the whole.

I thought TN/KY firmly Libertarian so remains steady.
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