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Old 07-18-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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That's definitely correct. PG County schools have a GREATLY watered down curriculum, as opposed to MoCo. And a lot of the similar courses are taught at different grade levels. But, it also depends on the school you attend. Not all schools offer the same courses. It's about whether or not the school has the staff numbers to support offering more courses; whether or not there's adequate space in the school to accommodate the expanded classes; and whether there's teachers qualified to teach said courses. My high school had a pretty big course selection... one of the biggest in the county. Even still, those courses aren't taught on the same level as MoCo except for perhaps the Advanced Placement or International Baccalaureate courses.

How do you think this can be fixed? Because I'm sure if a majority of parents saw actual numbers comparing the level of academia at all levels, they would feel offended that their children are getting a dumbed down education. No parent paying taxes should have to accept that.

I understand to get higher caliber teachers, you need to pay them accordingly, but this recession as leveled the playing field. Even high caliber teachers are out of jobs. I wonder what the county can do to attract them back at lower costs. Unless the union frowns upon that.

I'm afraid that unless there's a radical transformation of the way the school system operates, PG County will always be behind. This school system can't be changed with bandaids here and there. A complete and total operation has to take place.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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As long as Montgomery, Calvert and other MD counties start teachers at a higher wage PG will be left behind. That's not even factoring in the endemic problems of the system, one of which is the recent statement by the Superintendent that employees are "human cattle".

Don't think for a minute that parents don't know that the curriculum is "watered down" (it really isn't, the problem is that so many kids come to school in each successive grade not prepared for the curriculum-kids in Algebra that can't add or subtract, kids in US History that don't know which side won the Revolution or Civil War).
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Hyattsville, MD
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As long as Montgomery, Calvert and other MD counties start teachers at a higher wage PG will be left behind. That's not even factoring in the endemic problems of the system, one of which is the recent statement by the Superintendent that employees are "human cattle".

Don't think for a minute that parents don't know that the curriculum is "watered down" (it really isn't, the problem is that so many kids come to school in each successive grade not prepared for the curriculum-kids in Algebra that can't add or subtract, kids in US History that don't know which side won the Revolution or Civil War).
No, the curriculum is definitely watered down. I'm not stating this from theory... I'm stating it from experience. My best friend went to PGCPS all his life and transferred to Sherwood High School in MoCo midway through his freshman year in PG. To this day, he still talks about how drastically different the curriculum was, specifically his "Matter & Energy" science course which is the equivalent of "Physical Science or Physics" in PGCS. He said PGCPS didn't even begin to prepare him for how much more advanced and rigorous MoCo schools were, and he didn't necessarily attend 'bad' schools while he was in PG.

Same stories with my younger siblings. All went to PGCPS schools at some point and two years ago, they transferred to MoCo schools. The difference was literally night and day from everything concerning how much more time/investment MoCo devoted towards them to how much more rigorous the curriculum was.

So, don't delude yourself and think for a second students in PGCPS are getting (or have the opportunity to get) the same education as students in Montgomery. That type of complacent thinking would almost be just as bad as people who just don't care one way or another. But, I do agree with some of your other points.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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The curricula are imposed by MSDE under the Voluntary (which it isn't) State Curriculum for each subject.

What is different is the delivery (which some would say are the expectations).
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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Isn't Whitehall in Bowie? I hate to be the one bringing race into the mix... but i'm sure it can't be argued that Whitehall's socioeconomic situation and demographics greatly effects performance. Bowie HS is usually considered #2 (at least in the past) only to Roosevelt.
[SIZE=3][SIZE=3][LEFT]From the School Improvement Plan, 2011-2012, Whitehall Elementary, executive summary:

"Of our total student population, 217 (48.0%) are African American, 165 (37.0%) are
White, 24 (5.3%) are Asian/Pacific Islander, 35 (7.28%) are Hispanic, and 11 (2.5%) are American Indian. We educate 238 female students and 214 male students. Eighteen percent (18%) of the total enrollment is from families below the poverty level and receive free and reduced meals (FARMS)."

I would bring socialeconomics into it before race. Whitehall has consistently scored at the top in MSAs for at least two to three years now? If not more. Basically, black kids hold a slight majority at Whitehall. Deeper still, there are majority black, high-FARMS-percentage elementaries in Maryland that do decently or better on MSAs. What makes those schools outperform schools in PG? [/LEFT]
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:33 PM
 
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Demographics of PG County from the US Census Bureau:


White persons, percent, 2010 (a) 19.2%58.2%
Black persons, percent, 2010 (a) 64.5%29.4%

(The first percentage is PG County, the second is the State of Maryland)

If you are comparing Whitehall's demographics to the rest of PG County, you can absolutely say the racial scale is unbalanced.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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And it's up to the parent to correct the child and help the child understand.



A teacher can only do so much. I'm not asking parents to be teachers, but an attitude of learning comes from the home. It starts at birth and continues on. All I'm saying is some parents wait too late to get active in their child's education or they don't do it at all. When I child comes home sharing about what happened at school, it's the parent's responsibility to correct those things that are incorrect (slang, curse words, fights with other students, skipping class, etc.) or reenforce those things that are positive.



If you read my comments you'll see that I made no such statement.
I agree that teacher can only do so much. If you are not ready to be an active participant in your child's life then don't have kids. Children need parents who are actively involved in all aspects of their lives. This is true no matter where you live or what school they attend. I have friends who graduated from Anacostia, Ballou, and Dunbar. All of them are successful adults with college degrees. Some hold master's degrees. One thing they had in common was an involved parent/s. They showed up to PTA meetings, talked to teachers about their grades, and checked to see if they had homework each night. Most importantly they knew who their children's friends were and didn't allow them run the streets. They were parents.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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No, the curriculum is definitely watered down. I'm not stating this from theory... I'm stating it from experience. My best friend went to PGCPS all his life and transferred to Sherwood High School in MoCo midway through his freshman year in PG. To this day, he still talks about how drastically different the curriculum was, specifically his "Matter & Energy" science course which is the equivalent of "Physical Science or Physics" in PGCS. He said PGCPS didn't even begin to prepare him for how much more advanced and rigorous MoCo schools were, and he didn't necessarily attend 'bad' schools while he was in PG.

Same stories with my younger siblings. All went to PGCPS schools at some point and two years ago, they transferred to MoCo schools. The difference was literally night and day from everything concerning how much more time/investment MoCo devoted towards them to how much more rigorous the curriculum was.

So, don't delude yourself and think for a second students in PGCPS are getting (or have the opportunity to get) the same education as students in Montgomery. That type of complacent thinking would almost be just as bad as people who just don't care one way or another. But, I do agree with some of your other points.

Depends on the school. I'm sure there are some students that are receiving an inadequete education but I don't think the majority are. Some are simply wasting the opportunity to learn. Influences outside of classroom are often a big part of that. If students come into a classroom not on grade level, teachers have to meet them where they are at. The goal is to help them master the subject matter but that's not always possible. Teachers do the best they can within a given school year. If they engaged parents who work at home with thier child much more can be achieved.

When I graduated from a Prince George's county high school and attended college I was right on track with my fellow freshman classmates. I heard from a professor (shameful) and a few classmates that I'd received an inferior education but that just wasn't the case. I could hold my own and excelled.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: La Plata, Maryland
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What makes Prince Georges County School District bad??

Generally speaking, because some parents in the county care less about how their children do in school. Sometimes kids just take school as a social event rather than educational.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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How do I get PGCPS to pay for private school for my child.

Posted 09-23-2011 at 09:16 PM by janstar1
My child is a freshman in high school and has an IEP. Come to find out nearly one month after starting school. My child's IEP was not in effect and a one on one aide that is a part of the accommadations was not present when four students attacked my special needs child and was beaten. No one called me. I went to the school after a scare, my child never showed up from school. I then went to the school and found my child with a bloody nose among other injuries and the principal have yet to respond to a email I sent asking for an explanation. Compliance for PGCPS has been called in because of my valiant effort to find out what was really going on. Awaiting meeting to discuss placement I am requesting. My child does well academically, but has aspergers syndrome which affects the social aspects. What should I do? I live in Beltsville. Do you think this is enough to get them pay for a private school?
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