PG Developers cry foul over HHS contract be awarded to MoCo developer (Hyattsville: leases, crime)

[EdwardA]

This is why PG being so dependent on the government for commercial development is a bad thing.


HHS lease contract still drawing protests from Pr. George’s County developers - The Washington Post

Ralph O. White, GAO’s managing associate general counsel, said the independent federal agency received about 2,300 protests last year. GAO held hearings on about 60 of those cases.

“When you have a complex record, you can’t do it on the paper in front of you,” White said. “This is a close fight, and it’s a lot of money.”

This is the second round of protests by One Largo Metro, Metroview Development Holdings and King Farm Associates. The lease would affect the location of 3,000 office workers.

The proposed locations in Prince George’s are in New Carrollton, Largo and Hyattsville.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

This is why PG being so dependent on the government for commercial development is a bad thing.


HHS lease contract still drawing protests from Pr. George’s County developers - The Washington Post

So are Montgomery and Fairfax. It's just that they got a head start and an unfair advantage. Take away the feds in Fairfax and what do you have? There would certainly be less contractors located there as well. Let's face it, government leases bring jobs, jobs, jobs, and money, money, money. And in this economy, I'd fight tooth and nail too.

[justtitans]

It's seems that there is some fishy business going on here. I think out of all the places, Largo would be a prime spot for a federal agency. I've heard some stories about that Parklawn site, I was very surprised that they won the bid.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

So are Montgomery and Fairfax. It's just that they got a head start and an unfair advantage. Take away the feds in Fairfax and what do you have? There would certainly be less contractors located there as well. Let's face it, government leases bring jobs, jobs, jobs, and money, money, money. And in this economy, I'd fight tooth and nail too.

Off the top of my head Capital One, Exxon the Tysons Corridor.

From Wiki:

Fairfax County also is home to major employers such as Volkswagen Group of America, Hilton Worldwide,[27] CSC (formerly Computer Sciences Corporation), Northrop Grumman, Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), SRA International, Gannett, Capital One, General Dynamics, ICF International, Freddie Mac, Sallie Mae, ManTech International, Mars, NII and NVR. ExxonMobil headquarters its downstream operations in the county at a site that was formerly the headquarters of Mobil Oil.[28] The county is home to seven Fortune 500 company headquarters,[29] 11 Hispanic 500 companies,[30] and five companies on the Black Enterprise 500 list. Northrop Grumman announced in 2010 that it would move its corporate headquarters from Los Angeles to Fairfax County.

Granted some of these companies are either Government own or supported entities.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by meatkins

It's seems that there is some fishy business going on here. I think out of all the places, Largo would be a prime spot for a federal agency. I've heard some stories about that Parklawn site, I was very surprised that they won the bid.

Lots of vacant land around that Metro. It seems like an ideal place for a major development but with the carjackings and other problems that may give developers pause.

[bowian]

The County would have to commit to really beefing up security in that area to make the development work. In fact, they need to really start cracking down on the car-related crimes at the Largo metro right now, if they have not already.

A significant influx of federal development will lure contractor and private development as well. If you were to take away the federal development in Fairfax, even the private commercial development would falter and even decrease.

In PG, I think officials are looking at federal development as the building blocks and stepping stones to other development. Plus, more people would be able to live and work in the county, and it will be less of a "bedroom community." The problem is that it's hard for us to even get the federal development, because the surrounding communities don't want to give up anything and they want even more. The ball is really in the feds' court, but PG also needs to bolster the safety image.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

Lots of vacant land around that Metro. It seems like an ideal place for a major development but with the carjackings and other problems that may give developers pause.

I work in the Suitland Federal Center. If they can have a federal agency in Suitland, they can have one anywhere. All they have to do is to follow our lead, build a huge fence around the entire facility and then put banks, credit unions, and gyms on site so no one will really have to leave the site unless they are going home.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by meatkins

I work in the Suitland Federal Center. If they can have a federal agency in Suitland, they can have one anywhere. All they have to do is to follow our lead, build a huge fence around the entire facility and then put banks, credit unions, and gyms on site so no one will really have to leave the site unless they are going home.

How's that working out? What's the point of moving federal workers here if they are scared to leave the premises?

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

How's that working out? What's the point of moving federal workers here if they are scared to leave the premises?

I was being a little sarcastic, but yeah it doesn't make sense. I will give Largo credit besides car thefts and crime around the metro there isn't much else that happens there. In Suitland there has been all types of things that have happened. Just in the past month women were getting sexually assaulted and robbed at gun point at the metro. Then on the other side of the complex last year someone was killed. Those are reasons alone not to walk put but some people still do. I don't see Largo being that bad but they definitely got work to do.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by meatkins

I was being a little sarcastic, but yeah it doesn't make sense. I will give Largo credit besides car thefts and crime around the metro there isn't much else that happens there. In Suitland there has been all types of things that have happened. Just in the past month women were getting sexually assaulted and robbed at gun point at the metro. Then on the other side of the complex last year someone was killed. Those are reasons alone not to walk put but some people still do. I don't see Largo being that bad but they definitely got work to do.

There have been studies that suggest if there is redevelopment and investment in the area, the crime drops. Take for example what's happening in D.C. With more dense development, there are more people/travelers on the street. It gets harder and harder to perform a crime without being seen or caught by someone. Now I'm not saying development gets rids of all crime, just that crime is reduced. By how much remains to be seen.