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Old 06-18-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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Does anyone know if there will be table games at the MGM? I would love to have a place to play texas hold'em.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:51 PM
 
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I wonder if many people look at the PGC region and realize what is really going on here.
PGC is the armpit of DC and the county government has been reckless for years. Why don't they make the tax base more attractive to large corporations looking for some place to set up shop rather than trying to shove gambling under our noses? Are we supposed to think it smells better?

Real industry goes farther than a few casinos run by out of state organizations. You don't think the Md lottery board is going to oversee all gambling, do you? Real industry provides real jobs for more than the few that may land a job at a casino. Why is Va glutted with high tech industry while Md is seeking gambling?

I have heard the arguments of the money the state loses to surrounding states due to the fact Md citizens will travel to those destinations but I find little validity in those arguments. How many people actually gamble other than playing the lottery? I don't think the majority of county citizens are going to flock to NH if it becomes a gambler's paradise. They may once or twice until they fall prey to that vice but that is about it. How many here would frequent a gambling casino at NH?

I chance to say not many.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:50 PM
 
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Does anyone know if there will be table games at the MGM? I would love to have a place to play texas hold'em.
Based on what has been reported so far if the referendum is placed on the ballot and it passes, all of the casinos will have table games. Should note that, if a casino is placed at the Harbor, it wouldn't open until 2016. In part to give other casinos a chance to stand-up and also the design and construction phase would take about three years.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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I wonder if many people look at the PGC region and realize what is really going on here.
PGC is the armpit of DC and the county government has been reckless for years. Why don't they make the tax base more attractive to large corporations looking for some place to set up shop rather than trying to shove gambling under our noses? Are we supposed to think it smells better?

Real industry goes farther than a few casinos run by out of state organizations. You don't think the Md lottery board is going to oversee all gambling, do you? Real industry provides real jobs for more than the few that may land a job at a casino. Why is Va glutted with high tech industry while Md is seeking gambling?

I have heard the arguments of the money the state loses to surrounding states due to the fact Md citizens will travel to those destinations but I find little validity in those arguments. How many people actually gamble other than playing the lottery? I don't think the majority of county citizens are going to flock to NH if it becomes a gambler's paradise. They may once or twice until they fall prey to that vice but that is about it. How many here would frequent a gambling casino at NH?

I chance to say not many.
As far as corporate taxes the majority of that rate is dictated by the state. 20 or 30 years ago, the state decided to not focus on creating a business friendly environment while VA went head first. That created an environment that has been difficult for MD to turn around. As for the casino, its not being built for county residents. Its being built mostly to cater to tourist and residents of DC and VA. I know that PG has recently been trying to increase the number of federal agencies in the county but anything done is going to take time. PGC actually has a great opportunity to increase its corporate portfolio considering its one of the last affordable places close to DC but they need to correct/change a lot (starting with its reputation) before they can make strides in that area.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:37 PM
 
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As far as corporate taxes the majority of that rate is dictated by the state. 20 or 30 years ago, the state decided to not focus on creating a business friendly environment while VA went head first. That created an environment that has been difficult for MD to turn around. As for the casino, its not being built for county residents. Its being built mostly to cater to tourist and residents of DC and VA. I know that PG has recently been trying to increase the number of federal agencies in the county but anything done is going to take time. PGC actually has a great opportunity to increase its corporate portfolio considering its one of the last affordable places close to DC but they need to correct/change a lot (starting with its reputation) before they can make strides in that area.

I had a girlfriend who worked for the county when I had an opportunity to meet one of the most crooked men in my life; none other than Parris Glendenning. PGC had no chance under him and has been mismanaged ever since. Federal agencies aren't the type of employment this county or country needs as they are basically service jobs that require few skills unless involved in the IT side of it. Creating/manufacturing is a better way to go than service. A gasoline/service station employs mechanics that perform a service. Paper pushers don't equal that kind of service.

We have become a service nation that services itself and we farm a lot of that out to offshore entities. Have you ever called Verizon to speak with their tech services? You will get the Philippines, India or Mexico on the line. That kind of employment would look good in PGC as I don't see a line of other employers here.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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Federal agencies aren't the type of employment this county or country needs as they are basically service jobs that require few skills unless involved in the IT side of it.
I disagree. Federal agencies, mainly defense, can attract private contractors that employ thousands. Look at Alexandria. Fort Meade is attracting and will continue to attract cyber security firms. NASA Goddard attracts rocket and satellite firms. NOAA in College Park may attract a few weather research firms. Not all government agencies are about pushing paper.
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Creating/manufacturing is a better way to go than service. A gasoline/service station employs mechanics that perform a service. Paper pushers don't equal that kind of service.
Not quite sure I understand you here.

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We have become a service nation that services itself and we farm a lot of that out to offshore entities. Have you ever called Verizon to speak with their tech services? You will get the Philippines, India or Mexico on the line. That kind of employment would look good in PGC as I don't see a line of other employers here.
I agree that we have become a service-oriented economy. But because it is so expensive to live here compared to the rest of the world, it takes a lot to keep the high standard of living. Which means corporations would have to continually increase salaries. That in turn would hurt the bottom line. So, they off-shore work. Salaries then stagnate here in the US because corporations no longer HAVE to depend on US labor, and all we get to do is provide service for the products that are built in other countries. Products ranging from cell phones, servers, TVs, Etc.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:49 AM
 
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I had a girlfriend who worked for the county when I had an opportunity to meet one of the most crooked men in my life; none other than Parris Glendenning. PGC had no chance under him and has been mismanaged ever since. Federal agencies aren't the type of employment this county or country needs as they are basically service jobs that require few skills unless involved in the IT side of it. Creating/manufacturing is a better way to go than service. A gasoline/service station employs mechanics that perform a service. Paper pushers don't equal that kind of service.

We have become a service nation that services itself and we farm a lot of that out to offshore entities. Have you ever called Verizon to speak with their tech services? You will get the Philippines, India or Mexico on the line. That kind of employment would look good in PGC as I don't see a line of other employers here.
I have to completely disagree with you and take adelphi_sky side on this point. The Federal Government is exactly what this county needs. That is what drives this region. Without the Federal Government, this region would have suffered just as much other metropolitan areas in this country, and that's including places like DC, Arlington, Fairfax and Montgomery County. Like adelphi said, it attracts companies to want to build here. In Virginia they were just able to convince Lockheed Martin to move their headquarters from Cali to Fairfax. Why? Because they want to be closer to their main client, the Federal Government. The Federal Government is indeed an industry, especially in this region, but there isn't enough. If you think the Federal Government just does IT and a few menial jobs, then I would advise you to do more research. The Hampton Roads area is literally built off of Defense. The moment the government cuts the defense spending, that area goes into a frenzy. There are many industries that are affected by the government but the problem with PG has always been that we don't have enough agencies here and we don't have enough to build a focus (i.e. Defense in VA, Naval Systems in Southern MD).
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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Getting manufacturing to PGC would be impossible for a couple of reasons:

1) There isn't that much in the US to begin with.
2) Of the factories left, they prefer non-union areas with low costs of land, low salaries, and low costs of living. PGC is 0 for 4 on those criteria.

Federal agencies provide more stability and higher pay than the manufacturing sector anyway, and as the posters above mentioned, they bring contractors with them when they relocate.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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I wonder if many people look at the PGC region and realize what is really going on here.
PGC is the armpit of DC and the county government has been reckless for years. Why don't they make the tax base more attractive to large corporations looking for some place to set up shop rather than trying to shove gambling under our noses? Are we supposed to think it smells better?

Real industry goes farther than a few casinos run by out of state organizations. You don't think the Md lottery board is going to oversee all gambling, do you? Real industry provides real jobs for more than the few that may land a job at a casino. Why is Va glutted with high tech industry while Md is seeking gambling?

I have heard the arguments of the money the state loses to surrounding states due to the fact Md citizens will travel to those destinations but I find little validity in those arguments. How many people actually gamble other than playing the lottery? I don't think the majority of county citizens are going to flock to NH if it becomes a gambler's paradise. They may once or twice until they fall prey to that vice but that is about it. How many here would frequent a gambling casino at NH?

I chance to say not many.
Because for Decades Virginia have been Scheming Politically to keep Maryland behind Virginia in Business, Economic, and Revenue growth from the days of political setup to prevent Major Highway connection between Maryland and DC; preventing Big Business Corps from relocating to Maryland due to Extremely high Property Taxes; to today with the attempts to keep Revenue/Tourism Generating Gambling Casinos from being Built in Maryland.....

Again all of this BS complaining about building casinos are coming from Maryland Hating Tax payers from Virginia because they feel threaten that Virginia Will Lose Tourist Revenue to Maryland............
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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I had a girlfriend who worked for the county when I had an opportunity to meet one of the most crooked men in my life; none other than Parris Glendenning. PGC had no chance under him and has been mismanaged ever since. Federal agencies aren't the type of employment this county or country needs as they are basically service jobs that require few skills unless involved in the IT side of it. Creating/manufacturing is a better way to go than service. A gasoline/service station employs mechanics that perform a service. Paper pushers don't equal that kind of service.

We have become a service nation that services itself and we farm a lot of that out to offshore entities. Have you ever called Verizon to speak with their tech services? You will get the Philippines, India or Mexico on the line. That kind of employment would look good in PGC as I don't see a line of other employers here.
Parris Glendenning was one of the Biggest Maryland Hating Scumbags to ever ruin the State of MAryland with his anti-Highway, anti-Growth, and anti-Business dictatorship towards the state of Maryland. Because of him he is the reason why the ICC was soo expensive to build........
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