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Old 11-07-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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No. This isn't Potterville. And what many of the opposing voters don't realize is that the casino will only be about 35% of MGM's business. This will also be a resort with a hotel. Are hotels cop-outs? Not when they can draw tourists away from DC to spend money in MD. Those tourists will need somewhere to eat. There will be Las Vegas style restaurants with top chefs. History shows that PG has been pleading for upscale dining. Restaurants for visitors and locals are not cop-outs. Those tourists may want to spend money on a few nice things. Upscale to high end shopping will be a part of the resort. Again, history tells us PG has been pleading for shopping options other than Shoe City. Don't see shopping as a cop-out there. There will be entertainment. Currently, DC, Montgomery, and I believe Fairfax all have the top entertainment venues. PG will get a venue that will offer the nation's hottest artists. PG and Maryland would draw even more tourists as some like to follow their favorite entertainers. No cop-out there.

So you see, there is more that MGM is offering than JUST a casino. This has been reiterated over and over and over. Yet people still think that there will just be a room filled with slot machines. This is strictly a win for the amenities PG county has been pleading for. It just so happens a casino will be attached. Personally, even if I was against a casino, I could live with one if it brought the other amenities that are expected. Here's a shocker. People can actually eat, sleep, and shop without ever having to play a single casino game. At the very least, that is a win. Maryland and PG county needs outside foot traffic and revenue. The casino/resort will provide that foot traffic and revenue. But people have to be open-minded. The cost/benefit analysis is in favor of the casino/resort.
Yeah ok, good points
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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molukai you are an ignorant little bastard for calling those people uncouth. I have family that lives in that neigborhood, all are well to do. It is you who is uncouth for being so judgemental, so you are willing to kick out people out of their homes who has been residents who most are residents for more than 20 years just for the sake of money and for your own interest.

You are a disgrace to all of humanity for even thinking of such a thing, that is no better than what Adolf Hitler tried to do by eradicating the Jews from Europe.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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Frank002, if you read my statement - really read it, not at the reactive uneducated level in which you currently are - I am not utilizing the term 'uncouth' as if it is a belief that I hold. Rather, I am stating (in an embellished tone) the view that National Harbor's developers hold. Why would I be calling the citizens in the Fort Washington and Oxon Hill areas uncouth, as I am one of them? And even if it were my belief, to compare my calling people uncouth would equate me to Adolf Hitler? Good job. I think you won at the Internet. Since I am a gentleman I will not be degenerating this thread into something that you obviously are trying hard to make it become. But for the record, if I was to think of anyone - ANYONE - as uncouth, you would be the standard bearer of that term.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Well, it took 48 pages, but Godwin's law proves true again.

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:58 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Its good that the National Harbor casino will have a hotel. I don't know why Perryville's casino doesn't have a hotel attached it certainly has the space. I know Arundel Mills area is already built up so there is no room for a hotel. But Perryville and Ocean Downs definitely should have hotels like major casinos not just in Las Vegas but in St. Louis and Kansas City do. They also need to allow free alcohol and smoking at all the casinos.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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Its good that the National Harbor casino will have a hotel. I don't know why Perryville's casino doesn't have a hotel attached it certainly has the space. I know Arundel Mills area is already built up so there is no room for a hotel. But Perryville and Ocean Downs definitely should have hotels like major casinos not just in Las Vegas but in St. Louis and Kansas City do. They also need to allow free alcohol and smoking at all the casinos.
Definitely need a Hotel that goes without saying, alcohol absolutely its necessary to attract the players especially the high rollers now smoking thats a whole other subject. designated areas for smoking or they won't see any of my money thats for sure!
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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This is interesting. A think tank believes that they licensing fee that the PG casino operator (presumably MGM), is too low. They propose that the amount should be 500M to obtain a license given the profits that they are projected to receive. Keep in mind that this is on top of the effective tax rate imposed on the casino. Whether you agree with gambling in MD or not, the idea of imposing that high a fee on any industry is ridiculous. That would be like charging energy companies that much to do business in MD because there would be a finite number and they would profit from that arrangement. I am not surprised that the name of the think tank was not mentioned since their credibility is shot after their assertions. Although there is no indication that MD would go down that route, if they did they would definitely reinforce MD's reputation for not being business friendly.


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Old 12-20-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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This is interesting. A think tank believes that they licensing fee that the PG casino operator (presumably MGM), is too low. They propose that the amount should be 500M to obtain a license given the profits that they are projected to receive. Keep in mind that this is on top of the effective tax rate imposed on the casino. Whether you agree with gambling in MD or not, the idea of imposing that high a fee on any industry is ridiculous. That would be like charging energy companies that much to do business in MD because there would be a finite number and they would profit from that arrangement. I am not surprised that the name of the think tank was not mentioned since their credibility is shot after their assertions. Although there is no indication that MD would go down that route, if they did they would definitely reinforce MD's reputation for not being business friendly.


Report: MGM licensing fee way too low | WashingtonExaminer.com
I'm not following it that closely, but I've said from the beginning, get the most you can from the operators, not the tax payers. There shouldn't be a need to raise taxes to get a casino here. Come one! Washington DC, and the site, sit directly in the middle of the action. Its the perfect venue. MGM, Wynn, Trump, they should be clamoring to come here.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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I'm not following it that closely, but I've said from the beginning, get the most you can from the operators, not the tax payers. There shouldn't be a need to raise taxes to get a casino here. Come one! Washington DC, and the site, sit directly in the middle of the action. Its the perfect venue. MGM, Wynn, Trump, they should be clamoring to come here.
Well they are already getting a lot (compared to other states with gambling). We have one of the highest tax rates in the country. If they followed the think tank's logic then there would be no interest in pursuing business in MD. This is all theoretical since it is only a position of an undisclosed think tank but why risk loosing future money from taxes by setting the entry so high that no business could sustain in the state. What if they applied the same logic to grocery stores or gas stations. Do you think that those business would want to stay or expand in a state where the cost of doing business was that high? Maximizing your commercial tax revenue is good but it shouldn't be done to the extent where you cut off your nose to spite your face.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Well they are already getting a lot (compared to other states with gambling). We have one of the highest tax rates in the country. If they followed the think tank's logic then there would be no interest in pursuing business in MD. This is all theoretical since it is only a position of an undisclosed think tank but why risk loosing future money from taxes by setting the entry so high that no business could sustain in the state. What if they applied the same logic to grocery stores or gas stations. Do you think that those business would want to stay or expand in a state where the cost of doing business was that high? Maximizing your commercial tax revenue is good but it shouldn't be done to the extent where you cut off your nose to spite your face.
This is gambling we're talking about, a full blown casino, not a grocery store or gas station or Mon and Pop shop. Revenues are potentially massive compared that, you can't compare the average biz to major Casino. This market is one of the best in the Country.....lots of wealth here. Its not what I would call a good fit, I'd prefer more attention to Biotech, High tech, Medical, Cyber, defense, these are good business to create high paying jobs.
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