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Old 06-11-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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Gazette.Net: Student sexually assaulted while swimming in campus fountain in underwear

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A woman was sexually assaulted and others had their belongings stolen after they took a swim in a University of Maryland, College Park fountain in their underwear.


University police said around midnight Saturday, a group of female students were swimming in the McKeldin Mall fountain, a known campus landmark, when eight to 10 men and women approached them and stole their belongings, which they had left on the side of the fountain, according to University police.
What is wrong with people? Of course the obvious is that the men and women who approached them was 100% wrong, but why would these women be out at midnight swimming in their underwear? Why were they swimming in a fountain? Just seem like they were looking for attention and they got more than they bargained for.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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Gazette.Net: Student sexually assaulted while swimming in campus fountain in underwear



What is wrong with people? Of course the obvious is that the men and women who approached them was 100% wrong, but why would these women be out at midnight swimming in their underwear? Why were they swimming in a fountain? Just seem like they were looking for attention and they got more than they bargained for.

They must not be from here. And where was campus police? I'm sure swimming in the fountain half naked is a no-no.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Those women got what was coming to then. Everybody knows that dressing provocatively, like in your underwear, is an invitation to sexual assault. Why would they dress like that unless they wanted to be ravaged?

I would also like to know their sexual history, specifically how much those girls gets around. It is all very revelant to whether or not a crime occurred on that night in the fountain.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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^^I get it. But I suppose you missed the part of the OP that stated "of course the obvious is that the men and women who approached them was 100% wrong..." From what I read, a "ravaging" did not occur, but an @ss was grabbed. It's still very, very wrong. If I was a parent of one of them, I would be furious with the perpetrators. I'd also talk to her about keeping herself safe to empower herself and avoid crime.

It's not about dressing provocatively, is it? It's about doing risky things at a risky hour in a risky place. No, none of that ever, ever deserves a sexual assault. But then, being safe and making good decisions is a part of being a strong, well-rounded, independent woman.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:13 AM
 
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College girls. Obviously coming back from having gone out drinking a few.

Sounds like a memorable night. Not sure why a butt grab under those circumstances is called a sexual assault though.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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^^I get it. But I suppose you missed the part of the OP that stated "of course the obvious is that the men and women who approached them was 100% wrong..." From what I read, a "ravaging" did not occur, but an @ss was grabbed. It's still very, very wrong. If I was a parent of one of them, I would be furious with the perpetrators. I'd also talk to her about keeping herself safe to empower herself and avoid crime.

It's not about dressing provocatively, is it? It's about doing risky things at a risky hour in a risky place. No, none of that ever, ever deserves a sexual assault. But then, being safe and making good decisions is a part of being a strong, well-rounded, independent woman.
You don't blame the victims of sexual assault, ever. No always means no. Any amount of unwanted contact is too much. And, simply saying "Of course the perp was wrong...BUT......" isn't an acceptable hedge to then blame the victim anyway.

I understand why people think that way, it is way of making themselves feel safer.

"Oh, if that guy hadn't made eye contact on the bus with those kids, he wouldn't have had the crap beat out of him."

"If that woman hadn't been out alone at night, she would have been fine."

Crime is wrong. Criminals are criminals. Victims are victims. No amount of hedging or "yeah, buts" eliminates this basic dynamic. There are Rape Shield Laws for a reason.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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You don't blame the victims of sexual assault, ever. No always means no. Any amount of unwanted contact is too much. And, simply saying "Of course the perp was wrong...BUT......" isn't an acceptable hedge to then blame the victim anyway.

I understand why people think that way, it is way of making themselves feel safer.

"Oh, if that guy hadn't made eye contact on the bus with those kids, he wouldn't have had the crap beat out of him."

"If that woman hadn't been out alone at night, she would have been fine."

Crime is wrong. Criminals are criminals. Victims are victims. No amount of hedging or "yeah, buts" eliminates this basic dynamic. There are Rape Shield Laws for a reason.
I agree with you. But who was blaming the victims? A few posters questioned their judgment. I sure didn't read any excuses for the perpetrators. I suppose there is a thin line between being concerned about people keeping themselves safe and blaming them.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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Gazette.Net: Student sexually assaulted while swimming in campus fountain in underwear



What is wrong with people? Of course the obvious is that the men and women who approached them was 100% wrong, but why would these women be out at midnight swimming in their underwear? Why were they swimming in a fountain? Just seem like they were looking for attention and they got more than they bargained for.
"Looking for attention"

"What is wrong with people?" directed towards the victim

Sounds like victim blaming to me, Bowian.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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What is wrong with people? Of course the obvious is that the men and women who approached them was 100% wrong, but why would these women be out at midnight swimming in their underwear? Why were they swimming in a fountain? Just seem like they were looking for attention and they got more than they bargained for.

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Old 06-11-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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UMCP is one of the most dangerous campuses in America, it's in a filthy hellhole of an area. I can only imagine the girl was drunk and had taken leave of her senses. There's so many of these stories I've heard about from people I know that get covered up to give the impression of College Park as a safe place for the area yuppies to send their kids, sickening.
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