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Old 08-20-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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As we move closer to election day, there will be a seven questions that MD voters will have to consider(noted below). Of the ones currently on the ballot which ones do you think will pass and why?


1 Orphans' Court Judge Qualifications, Prince George's County - Prescribes different qualifications for judges of the Orphans' Court for Prince George's County (PG County Only)

2 Orphans' Court Judge Qualifications, Baltimore County - Prescribes different qualifications for judges of the Orphans' Court for Baltimore County (Baltimore County Only)

3 Elected Officials Removal from Office - Specifies condition under which and elected official convicted of a felony or certain misdemeanors is to be removed form office

4 Gaming Expansion Question -Allows the legalization of table games; authorize electronic bingo devices at VFAs; the construction of a new casino in Prince George's County (if it receives a majority in PG).

5 In-State Tuition Referendum - Would approve legislation that guarantees in-state tuition to illegal immigrants

6 Same-Sex Marriage Referendum - Would approve a law that allows same-sex couples to obtain a civil marriage license.

7 Redistricting Referendum -Would approve Maryland's congressional redistricting plan passed in October 2011.



*source: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph...allot_measures
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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And here is an article in today's post discussing the ballot questions

For Md. voters, Nov. ballot requires homework - Maryland Politics - The Washington Post
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Salisbury, MD
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I think 3, 4, 6 & 7 will pass and 5 will be narrowly defeated.

I honestly believe the vote for same-sex marriage will be extremely close despite what polls say.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I think 3, 4, 6 & 7 will pass and 5 will be narrowly defeated.

I honestly believe the vote for same-sex marriage will be extremely close despite what polls say.
I would agree on yours except for 5. I have never seen the enthusiasm for a referendum as I saw for repealing the MD Dream Act. People were truly pissed off. There were signature gatherers in every corner of the State. Not so for the Marriage Equality Act that was mostly just Prince George's and Baltimore City/County.

For redistricting most people will yawn.

I think Prince George's might just defeat the gambling referendum in-County.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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I would agree on yours except for 5. I have never seen the enthusiasm for a referendum as I saw for repealing the MD Dream Act. People were truly pissed off. There were signature gatherers in every corner of the State. Not so for the Marriage Equality Act that was mostly just Prince George's and Baltimore City/County.

For redistricting most people will yawn.

I think Prince George's might just defeat the gambling referendum in-County.
Yep. people were really hot over this issue. I think that bringing it up when people were/are still recovering from the recession and trying to pay for their child's or their own education was a bad move. Especially when out-of-state students aren't given the same courtesy. My feelings are still mixed on it but I don't think it will pass. With the Marriage Equality Act that's a tough one given that we are still in the south and its still not a popular topic. Although I am for it, I do believe that if it passes it will be by a narrow margin. I haven't read the full bill but I hope that they also legalize divorce for LGBT couples. I don't see that as being not needed. I agree with you on the redistricting legislation. I actually forgot about it until I saw the ballot descriptions. the PG Casino is too early to call. Although I believe that it will probably pass (narrowly), I think there are enough undecided people that it will come down to the final hours. PG is a big county and voters not in the immediate area may have a different perspective than those closer to the proposed development. That said

1 Orphans' Court Judge Qualifications, Prince George's County - Will pass just because it sounds good an people will check the box.

2 Orphans' Court Judge Qualifications, Baltimore County - Ditto

3 Elected Officials Removal from Office - Will be a landslide in counties that have had recent corruption issues and overall.

4 Gaming Expansion Question -It will pass at a state and county level since the components of the bill are not separated. Based on recent articles most in MD both gamblers and non- gamblers feel that adding table games would be critical for the MD Gaming Program to succeed and I believe that PG has a strong desire for jobs and in-county recreational options. Religious and Civic organizations will put up a good fight though.

5 In-State Tuition Referendum - It won't pass. Most people will liken that to their kids or themselves not getting an education and that probably won't fly.

6 Same-Sex Marriage Referendum - Not sure on this one. I would like to say it would because as a country we should not discriminate against any groups of people but we are not as liberal and accepting as we say we are and it is going to be close if it passes.

7 Redistricting Referendum -It will pass because it benefits the democratic party in a blue state.

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Old 08-30-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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#7 benefits the ills of the state. Nothing is ever accomplished in MD because it is a blue state; money gets appropriated and then it somehow disappears. MD has a terrific political track record. Once people wake up and realize this the other 6 points fall into place more readily.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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With the Marriage Equality Act that's a tough one given that we are still in the south and its still not a popular topic. Although I am for it, I do believe that if it passes it will be by a narrow margin. I haven't read the full bill but I hope that they also legalize divorce for LGBT couples. I don't see that as being not needed.
I have read the full law and it changes the qualifications for couples that can get a marriage certificate to include same-sex couples (which means any Md. laws that pertain to marriages apply to same-sex marriages with no difference), and provides religious organizations with protections against having to perform same-sex marriages. In fact, most of the text of the bill is concerning the latter.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:22 AM
 
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1 Orphans' Court Judge Qualifications, Prince George's County - Prescribes different qualifications for judges of the Orphans' Court for Prince George's County (PG County Only)
Pass, not really much controversy here

2 Orphans' Court Judge Qualifications, Baltimore County - Prescribes different qualifications for judges of the Orphans' Court for Baltimore County (Baltimore County Only)
Pass, not really much controversy here

3 Elected Officials Removal from Office - Specifies condition under which and elected official convicted of a felony or certain misdemeanors is to be removed form office
Pass, people are getting tired of corruption

4 Gaming Expansion Question -Allows the legalization of table games; authorize electronic bingo devices at VFAs; the construction of a new casino in Prince George's County (if it receives a majority in PG).
Fail, I don't see the rest of the state being in support of this. Given that this election already includes some other major issues, this will draw a lot of people out, many of whom will probably be against this. If this was on the ballot alone, it would probably pass, but I would imagine there will be people who don't agree with this idea especially outside of PG County.

5 In-State Tuition Referendum - Would approve legislation that guarantees in-state tuition to illegal immigrants
Fail, not a chance. No way are people going for this. The idea of a state who has had financial issues and has already had to make cuts, will somehow find money to support illegal immigrants and children of illegal immigrants will not have a chance.

6 Same-Sex Marriage Referendum - Would approve a law that allows same-sex couples to obtain a civil marriage license.
Fail, this is a tough one. I do honestly believe that it will ultimately fail because trends have shown that even the one of the most liberal states has rejected Same-Sex marriage in a popular vote (California). The only time same sex marriage has passed into law has been through legislative/judicial action and given the large populations in Prince George, Charles (yes, they have a lot of black religious types people too), and Baltimore City who likely to oppose this law, I would imagine this isn't going to happen.

7 Redistricting Referendum -Would approve Maryland's congressional redistricting plan passed in October 2011.
Fail, seemed shady from the jump. If the opponents sell this the way it is, it's going to get turned back. Unfortunately for opponents, some of the vocal opposition has died out against this because of the length of time, so it's possible it may have a chance.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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1, 2 and 3 pass easily
4 narrow, but pass
5 fail
6 this one could pass. I wish the media would stop pointing to Prince George's as a fortress to this bill. There is a difference between a minister screaming from his pulpit and how people really think. Contrary to who is shoved in front of a tv camera for a sound bite, they don't speak for everyone. Many people don't care and aren't about the deny a right to others especially when we all know someone who is gay. It's annoying, kind of like when the media tried to pin the defeat of a similar bill in CA on AA churches. The suburbs of Bmore and outlying regions of MD are far more conservative yet escape finger pointing.
7 fail
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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1, 2 and 3 pass easily
4 narrow, but pass
5 fail
6 this one could pass. I wish the media would stop pointing to Prince George's as a fortress to this bill. There is a difference between a minister screaming from his pulpit and how people really think. Contrary to who is shoved in front of a tv camera for a sound bite, they don't speak for everyone. Many people don't care and aren't about the deny a right to others especially when we all know someone who is gay. It's annoying, kind of like when the media tried to pin the defeat of a similar bill in CA on AA churches. The suburbs of Bmore and outlying regions of MD are far more conservative yet escape finger pointing.
7 fail
IMO the only reason why black voters are "singled out" in their alleged opposition to gay marriage because it is a rare break in following the Dem party line. The states that have defeated same-sex marriage in referendums have done so by going across party lines to attract religious social conservatives in the black community that would normally be reliable voters for Democratic party issues.

I think gay marriage will pass rather convincingly. I have seen polling numbers that show lopsided support for gay marriage. If the anti-gay marriage folks had polls showing close numbers, they would be carting them out to rally the troops.
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