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Old 09-20-2014, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Exactly. The drivers that cause nearly all the problems on the roads are those trying to enforce speed limits and obstruct the flow of traffic. Traffic will flow quite nicely and everybody will generally be polite to each other till some moron in the left lane screws that all up and triggers all kinds of aggressive driving, road rage and congestion behind them as dozens of cars begin to do whatever it takes to get up to that slow car and get around them. They end up weaving in and out of traffic, passing on the right and making aggressive lane changes. Once past the “stupid car”, the highway is generally wide open for miles till you reach the next stupid car holding things up again.

There is always room for these slow drivers to move over. If you are not going "faster" (same speed is not faster) than the traffic in the lanes to your right, then you should be in those lanes next to you and it doesn’t matter what your speed is. Pass and then move over. If if you "think" you are driving just fine, chances are you care creating mayhem behind you because you are restricting the flow of traffic. If you are being high beamed, cut off and flipped off on a very regular basis, then YOU are doing something wrong. 90% of the problems on the highways today would go away if people would do this.

And its often the same people that are totally oblivious to the road rage that they cause that rubber neck, slow way down every time they see a cop (even though they are not even doing the speed limit), are on the phone etc.

If you have to turn on your freaking hazards, then I think you have driving issues, not those trying to get around you. Sure, once in a while, you will have a truly aggressive tailgater that is just being an *******, let those people around you too, because they can be extremely aggressive if you mess with them. But 99% of road rage is caused by the clueless passive moron in the left lane, not crazy drivers that want to 100mph. If you take out the 10% that cause all the problems, you would reduce road rage and accidents while drastically improving the capacity and efficiency of the our nation's highways. Otherwise, we may as well spend the money and build a separate lane for those that don't know how to properly drive.

And that separate lane does not include HOV lanes. These dumb left lane hoggers will get into HOV lanes and go SLOWER than the main line traffic! Why? I have no idea. The point of the HOV lane to to go faster than the other lanes. Just because you can use the HOV lane doesn't mean you should. Take your two person slow car to the right lanes. So once again, they force other HOV users to do stupid things like cross double lines to get around them.

I hate this type of driver with a passion as you can tell.
You are the type of driver I was talking about that I "hate."

You sound very angry and come off to me as a bully. I have no doubt whatsoever that you are an aggressive driver.

Since I was the one that brought up the hazzard lights I'm going to assume what I bolded was pointed at me. Since you either missed it or have a reading comprehension problem here is part of it again:
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I do not like tailgaters at all. I'll try and get out of their way or pull over on the shoulder to let them pass if I have to. People who bully other drivers have a mental illness that I do not want to deal with.
That last part is directed at drivers like yourself. You are the type of driver I want to steer clear of and I make every effort to do so. Whenever I have to turn those flashers on it's because I can't get out of the way, like the tailgating that goes on sometimes on Georgetown Pike which is a one lane (each way) road.

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But 99% of road rage is caused by the clueless passive moron in the left lane, not crazy drivers that want to 100mph.
This is a flat out lie and I'm surprised no one called you on it. Road rage is caused by people in too much of a hurry when there is nothing one can do about the heavy traffic in this area. This is especially true once the traffic breaks up after a backup, drivers wanting to make up for lost time, or people just in a hurry because they didn't leave early enough and expect everyone to get out of their way.

I spend an average of just under 3 hours per day average communting between Greenbelt and Reston during rush time every weekday and what I say about aggressive driving is true, not the garbage you posted like that "99%" nonsense.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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To be frank with you, I'm disappointed you were not behind me. I run a junker in the hope to one day be able to make somebody swallow their teeth, and more, I don't care.
I'm a respectful drive. I completely forbid myself to pass on the right and zig zag. Sure, I'll drive up to 90mph sometimes but always on the left and when it doesn't bother anybody.
Driving here is out of control. It's not the speed, it's the crazy behaviors. Always trying to pass people on the right, tailgaiting, etc..
Frankly, I think you might be one of the person making life harder for everybody out there. Here's a tip for you: If one day you realize you are tailgating a very old GMC pickup truck, from the early 80s, on the Balt-Wash parkway, you have very little time to gather yourself and put some distance. I'll get you.
Sincerely
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Old 09-22-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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This if you're in the left lane and this happens best to change lanes. If someone hits you from behind going full speed your car can catch on fire. Not worth it.
And if you hit someone from behind, your insurance company will find you at fault. If you don't have first party coverage, you're screwed.
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Old 09-23-2014, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Macao
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A curious thing occurred tonight as I was driving home from work, going north on I-495 approaching I-270. This is during rush hour, and I generally drive in the right lane going 55 to 60 mph. I'm driving along and noticed that I am starting to creep up on someone (white Honda) because they're driving a little slow--maybe 50 mph. So I'm thinking, should I pass or is this person going to speed up, because a lot of times people will hit a spot where they temporarily slow down for whatever reason. Then this person starts slamming on the brakes. I guess he/she thought I was tailgating him. It's rush hour, there are a lot of cars, you can't expect people to keep 5 or six car lengths behind. I was in no way tailgating. If I were I would have hit them because when I say slamming on the brakes, this person was causing the tires to lock and squeal. When you're behind someone slow, it gets harder to pass because of the rate of speed on the left, but when I had space I passed them on the left. Then this person turns on their high beams. I know you should never escalate these things, but I swear I was so tempted to follow this person when they exited north on 355 and, well, I guess it's good that I just let it pass.
Not everyone is a city driver. You'll make them nervous if you get right up on them.

My Dad, who is now a very old man. He already gets nervous when driving around busy highways in any city. I am 100% that if someone came up on that old man, he'd lock up his brakes as well. It's not that he's trying to cause an accident. It's just that someone doing that to him, would make him nervous as all hell.

My guess is you got on top of an old man or old woman, who generally don't have the best eyesight anymore either, and aren't used to city driving. Plenty of them drive into the city for doctor specialist appointments, etc.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:09 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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My Dad, who is now a very old man. He already gets nervous when driving around busy highways in any city. I am 100% that if someone came up on that old man, he'd lock up his brakes as well.
Yeah. That's one way to calm down a tense situation - slamming on your breaks causing a multi-car accident and backing up traffic for miles. Here's an idea. Just don't look in the rear view mirror when someone tails you. Out of sight, out of mind. Your focus should be what's in front of you anyway unless you're about to change lanes.

*Not speaking of you specifically, but those who feel the need to slam on breaks because of tailgaters. *

If I'm in the left lane and I'm already going 18 mph over the speed limit, then the personal behind me has something to lose. I'm not saying I intentionally block traffic, but there are times when everyone is pretty much going 15 mph over the speed limit. That means I can only pass so quickly because that means I have to go faster, putting me closer to 20 mph over the speed limit. And if there is more traffic, it increases the number of cars and the time to pass them. So, the person behind tailgates because they want to go 25mph over the speed limit. I figure as long as I'm passing the cars to my right, there should be no reason to tailgate until I find a clearing to get our of your way.


I've always found it funny when going on long trips and seeing aggressive drivers duck and weave for miles only for me to pass or keep up with them driving normally. Driving is like a chess game. You have to plan three or four moves ahead. You make one wrong move, it could take you longer to get to your destination.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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My Dad, who is now a very old man. He already gets nervous when driving around busy highways in any city. I am 100% that if someone came up on that old man, he'd lock up his brakes as well. It's not that he's trying to cause an accident. It's just that someone doing that to him, would make him nervous as all hell.
Maybe he shouldn't be driving at all. When my dad turned 70 I noticed his driving was erratic and quite scary. Did he want to stop driving? No, but he also wanted to live, so he started taking a cab or would drive to a rideshare to go to the doctor's.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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Yes and to be honest, Northern Virginia is notorious for this. More so than MD or DC drivers. It just irritates me so much. It's completely selfish.

My sister lives in Arlington and often tells me people drive worst in MD than in NOVA. When I drive on the beltway over to doctors in Fairfax I see the exact opposite. I think people over there love their brakes - it must be a security thing like they are safe when going slow or stopped. Duke street is ridiculous and don't get me going on 50.
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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You are the type of driver I was talking about that I "hate."

You sound very angry and come off to me as a bully. I have no doubt whatsoever that you are an aggressive driver.

Since I was the one that brought up the hazzard lights I'm going to assume what I bolded was pointed at me. Since you either missed it or have a reading comprehension problem here is part of it again:

That last part is directed at drivers like yourself. You are the type of driver I want to steer clear of and I make every effort to do so. Whenever I have to turn those flashers on it's because I can't get out of the way, like the tailgating that goes on sometimes on Georgetown Pike which is a one lane (each way) road.


This is a flat out lie and I'm surprised no one called you on it. Road rage is caused by people in too much of a hurry when there is nothing one can do about the heavy traffic in this area. This is especially true once the traffic breaks up after a backup, drivers wanting to make up for lost time, or people just in a hurry because they didn't leave early enough and expect everyone to get out of their way.

I spend an average of just under 3 hours per day average communting between Greenbelt and Reston during rush time every weekday and what I say about aggressive driving is true, not the garbage you posted like that "99%" nonsense.
You do see some craziness in that commute - I assume you take 495 south to 267 as 495 N in MOCO is impossible during rush hour.

There ain't no cutting through town at that time of day.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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You do see some craziness in that commute - I assume you take 495 south to 267 as 495 N in MOCO is impossible during rush hour.

There ain't no cutting through town at that time of day.
I skip Route 267 because I do not want to pay the $7.00 in tax everyday to the State of Virginia. As mentioned I take Georgetown Pike and work my way over to Reston Parkway. It takes an extra 12 minutes and one mile longer getting to Reston.

Going back may save me time because I am closer to the bridge and I don't have to pay for the privilege to lineup to get to 495.

Traffic on 193 can be very bad coming back so I cut over via Swinks Mill Road from Old Dominion Dr.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I skip Route 267 because I do not want to pay the $7.00 in tax everyday to the State of Virginia.
I only pay $3 when I use 267. (Avoid the main toll plaza).
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