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Old 04-04-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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Why don't they do this for the whole state and not just casinos? Companies and businesses can still deny someone a job based on their criminal history. Why open it up just for casinos?

Measure to open casino jobs to criminal offenders wins final passage in Maryland


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The Maryland Senate on Wednesday passed a bill that would stop automatically disqualifying applicants for casino jobs who have committed "crimes of moral turpitude" or gambling offenses, The Washington Post reported.
The legislation, which limits automatic denial to those convicted, paroled or placed on probation in the previous seven years, would be among the most lenient in the country — though gaming regulators would still have the opportunity to deny licenses whenever they think it’s appropriate.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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Why don't they do this for the whole state and not just casinos? Companies and businesses can still deny someone a job based on their criminal history. Why open it up just for casinos?

Measure to open casino jobs to criminal offenders wins final passage in Maryland
I thought that was already the case. In general most businesses won't but, from what I recall, there is nothing legally stopping a business from hiring someone with a criminal record.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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I thought that was already the case. In general most businesses won't but, from what I recall, there is nothing legally stopping a business from hiring someone with a criminal record.

I've been reading a book on how ex-offenders are relegated to a second class caste system where there is unabated discrimination. This bill seems to assist this class of citizens where as I'm unaware of any other bill that assist in any other profession. Do the job discrimination laws include ex-cons?
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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They served their time and should be given an opportunity to reintegrate. If they fail they go back to jail.

I have no problem with this.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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Why don't they do this for the whole state and not just casinos? Companies and businesses can still deny someone a job based on their criminal history. Why open it up just for casinos?

Measure to open casino jobs to criminal offenders wins final passage in Maryland


RE: Adelphi Sky. Maybe because casinos already carry an unsavory image of moral turpitude, corruption, organized crime and whatever-in-heck is called "sin" by civilized society?
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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Lol how fitting that it takes a casino opening in PG that they decide to open the jobs to criminals. So much for improving the county's image.

I have no sympathy for folks who are ex-cons being "discriminated" it's an easy form of discrimination to prevent, don't commit crimes.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Lol how fitting that it takes a casino opening in PG that they decide to open the jobs to criminals. So much for improving the county's image.

I have no sympathy for folks who are ex-cons being "discriminated" it's an easy form of discrimination to prevent, don't commit crimes.

Even after paying your debt to society as described in the very laws and system we support? Why release anyone then? Yes, there are consequences to crime, but if the law says that I deserve to serve time in jail and/or pay a fine, and I do that, why should I then continue to "serve" time until I die? Isn't that a death sentence? There are a lot of prominent individuals who served time in jail and later contributed to society. Gosh, look at Martha Stewart, Michael Vick, etc. Do only celebs get a pass? Is that fair? Just?
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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I've been reading a book on how ex-offenders are relegated to a second class caste system where there is unabated discrimination. This bill seems to assist this class of citizens where as I'm unaware of any other bill that assist in any other profession. Do the job discrimination laws include ex-cons?
I believe they do but would have to look it up to be sure. The only exceptions would be if the job that they are applying for is a direct conflict with their crime (say a pediphile applying for a child care position). Even then I believe it is up to the employer to set that policy in place (of course it would need to be justified as causing harm of some type). I agree that this group of citizens can be discriminated against but I believe the focus on this industry was to counter the regulations that exists that place that restriction on potential gaming company employees.
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Old 04-05-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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Even after paying your debt to society as described in the very laws and system we support? Why release anyone then? Yes, there are consequences to crime, but if the law says that I deserve to serve time in jail and/or pay a fine, and I do that, why should I then continue to "serve" time until I die? Isn't that a death sentence? There are a lot of prominent individuals who served time in jail and later contributed to society. Gosh, look at Martha Stewart, Michael Vick, etc. Do only celebs get a pass? Is that fair? Just?
They didnt want Michael Vick playing in the NFL after he paid his debt to society.

If a criminal has been rehabilitated and is able to be a law abiding citizen then let them get a job. Im sure their Parole Officer would want them to get a job anyway. I do all the time for my clients
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Old 04-05-2013, 03:24 PM
 
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Even after paying your debt to society as described in the very laws and system we support? Why release anyone then? Yes, there are consequences to crime, but if the law says that I deserve to serve time in jail and/or pay a fine, and I do that, why should I then continue to "serve" time until I die? Isn't that a death sentence? There are a lot of prominent individuals who served time in jail and later contributed to society. Gosh, look at Martha Stewart, Michael Vick, etc. Do only celebs get a pass? Is that fair? Just?


This has been my argument for a while. I have lived with two convicted criminals, one of which spent two years in a federal prison. I've known many ex-convicts (not representative of who I am, but that shouldn't be neither here nor there) and it doesn't make a lick of a difference. People are so friggin' judgmental, most of it stemming from pure ignorance. They're so worried about a convicted criminal, not realizing that they know about a dozen people who're guilty of the same things the people they are so afraid of have done! The only difference is those people haven't been caught!

We have these arbitrary rules and systems in place, that state going to jail is supposed to be a punishment served to repay a debt to society. Once you repay that debt, you're done. It's like paying a credit card off. You aren't still be charged for a credit card or liable for outstanding charges on a credit card that's paid off. So, it's so funny to see the ignorant folk wanting to cast banishment and segregation towards individuals who've gone to jail and done their time. If we are going to continue to limit these folks who've done their time, ostracize them, not give them fair opportunities to assimilate themselves back into normal society... we might as well have mandatory life sentences or death penalties for all convicted criminals. These people do their time, legally, and they're still serving a life sentence in the public court of opinion.

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